Starting with the next major release, Chromium will stop supporting Manifest V2 extensions. The change will affect users who have clung to uBlock Origin in Chrome, Edge,...
  • youmaynotknow@lemmy.zipEnglish
    2 hours

    Haven’t used chrome in years. The closest I’ve been to it is Brave, and I only use it when shit doesn’t load on LibreWolf or IceRaven.

    • amorpheus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22 minutes

      There was a time when Chrome was that much better. Since then, nothing else has been better enough to switch.

    • Dæmon S.@catodon.rocks
      24 minutes

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      A few days ago, I had to use the Graphite image editor to refine a 3D scene I rendered in Blender. I’m a daily user of Waterfox, but for some reason, whenever I access the Graphite WebApp, it instantly grows in RAM usage, as the whole Waterfox freezes and crashes (which I found out to be a specifically a “core dump” kind of crash when I launched the browser from a terminal). Same for Librewolf. Then I had the idea of accessing Graphite through a spare Chromium (not Chrome, but still a Google thing) I unwittingly have to keep for development purposes, and suddenly it worked without a hassle, it didn’t even require that much RAM.

      This happens because Graphite, just like many webapps out there, was made with Chromium-based browsers in mind, likely using some esoteric features which are unavailable or badly implemented in Firefox-based browsers (an incompatibility of which indirectly affects Waterfox).

      This, I guess, is part of why people still use Chromium-based browsers: because it became indistinguishable from Internet Explorer and its idiosyncratic features (ActiveX) back in 2000s, with most developers (including myself) coding webpages that used said features (think about having to deal with the filesystem: devs would either have to use Java or devs could use the cool FileSystemObject ActiveX; similar thing applies nowadays with some HTML5 APIs that can be quite useful for some webapps but are only properly implemented in Chromium). At least we used to have a “This site is better viewed in IE7 on Windows XP with a resolution of 1024 x 768 and Macromedia Flash Player installed” back then, now webpages can simply crash the whole browser when it doesn’t refuse to load after an endless spinning animation.

      Don’t get me wrong: I would neither recommend Chromium, nor anything Google-related, for anyone, not even my worst enemies (a daily reminder for people, especially we Fediversers, to stop recommending the damn Youtube)… but this is the depressing reality of Web, and IT in general: things (some of which are sine qua non for “living in society” nowadays, such as internet banking and government platforms) that can only function in a specific platform/browser, be it Windows (when it comes to desktop platform), Android (when it comes to mobile) or Chromium (when it comes to the Web).

    • TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2 hours

      The majority of people just can’t fucking be bothered, don’t fucking care or are completely unaware that there are other options.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
        58 seconds

        Pretty much this. People on the fediverse generally forget how ridiculously non-tech savvy the public at large is, moreso the underlying issues with things like AI, tracking, etc.

        And even if they do know they can just shrug and say “so what?”

        People don’t know, don’t want to know, and can’t be bothered if told.

      • OpenPassageways@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2 hours

        Especially on mobile… It’s crazy how many times I tried to do a food order or some checkout process and mobile Firefox just hits some error.

      • youmaynotknow@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2 hours

        There’s always Brave. And yeah, I know there’s some dilema going on out there, but it works for stuff that only loads on chrome.

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6 hours

    Misleading headline, as UBlock Origin Lite will work.

    ….Which is what the vast majority of Chrome users would be using now anyway. Using full Ublock requires a ton of manual hoops (or a Chromium fork) already, and basically no one using plain Chrome at this point is gonna do that.

    Not that this is okay.

    I’m just saying it’s misleading. Full Ublock has already been evicted from Chrome for like 99.99% of its users, and sadly, they didn’t seem to care.

    • amorpheus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23 minutes

      The Lite version works fine for me. Would I prefer the full version? Sure. But migrating to a different browser is not that high on the list of things I have energy for.

  • medem@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    7 hours

    Who the fucking fuck still uses stock Chrome in 2026, chrissakes.

    • turdburglar@piefed.socialEnglish
      6 hours

      everyone’s parents methinks. i got mine on chrome 15ish years ago and now they won’t stop. “but you’re the one that told us to use chrome…”

      i get that a lot. it’s as if they cannot conceive that things that were once good can become shitty. enshittified if you will.

    • cubesthegamer@lemmy.zipEnglish
      2 hours

      I wouldn’t say anyone using Chromium. Brave and a few others are still good options. But Firefox is the goat of course.

  • sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.ioEnglish
    8 hours

    I’m using librewolf for most tasks but just FYI you can try ladybird with three lines of git and its coming along nicely. Additionally Kagi’s WebKit browser Orion is looking really great and the flatpak for that is available right now.

    Play with them and report bugs. These guys have been making serious progress this year.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7 hours

      I’m not sure I’d recommend Ladybird or Orion for general use yet. Orion is still getting there on Linux, ladybird is in deep development.

      …Why not a good fork? Like Zen, Librewolf, or if you need Chromium compatibility, Helium?

      • Voytrekk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        6 hours

        Won’t helium be affected by this change? They bundle Unlock Origin, so they will not be able to do that if they want to follow chromium still. They may have to swap to forking off Brave who uses their own blocking engine.

    • greybeard@feddit.onlineEnglish
      6 hours

      I’m excited that there are alternative browser engines being developed, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm for Ladybird when I learned more about the lead. Servo is another browser project coming along nicely, although Servo is closer to webkit than it is a fully fledged browser.

      • vandsjov@feddit.dkEnglish
        10 minutes

        You and me both about Ladybird… it was such a blow even I read about the lead.

        • sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.ioEnglish
          3 minutes

          I’m not happy about it either but one vile man pales in comparison to the vile empire as far as potential damage to the net, so I’m keeping tabs on it as it goes… Well see what happens.

    • squaresinger@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13 hours

      I would so love if this causes an usage spike for Firefox, so that all websites and webapps start testing for Firefox compatibility again…

      • saltesc@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12 hours

        The install counts for ad block extensions is surprisingly lower than you’d think.

        uBlock only peaked just shy of 30M users, so much less than 1% of general users. Obviously it’s not that cut and dry, but you get the idea. It’s unlikely they have much influence no matter where they go.

        • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 hours

          If that were true, Google wouldn’t be fighting them so hard.

        • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
          9 hours

          How many of those 3 billion Chrome users were on desktop though? Mobile is the default for most of the world.

            • vandsjov@feddit.dkEnglish
              4 minutes

              FF on iOS has not been given a lot of attention for a long time. Apparently this has changed, however I’m yet to see that and the issues I have with FF on iOS keeps me away. Some people try to defend Mozilla and blame Apple - and of cause there is some blame there - but other iOS browsers, including Safari, does a much better job. I’m on Vivaldi for that reason, with the latest version 8 have fixed the few annoying issues I had with it.

        • Ludicrous0251@piefed.zipEnglish
          11 hours

          IDK that it’s much less than 1% of general users, considering it’s .4% of the total global population, and even as #1 not everyone uses Chrome on desktop (but also some people have multiple desktops…).

          But your point is still valid, if the roughly 1% desktop market share shifts to FF, not a lot is likely to change.

        • jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish
          10 hours

          You’re saying there are 3 billion Firefox users? That doesn’t sound right. Or you mean 3 billion chrome users?

          • atrielienz@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3 hours

            I think they mean approximate chrome users. There’s about 3.8 billion of them.

            Firefox has a user base of approximately 150 million users (and that’s down from 206 million in like 2024).

  • arsCynic@piefed.socialEnglish
    11 hours

    The Firefox forks that I use:

    • LibreWolf ships with uBlockOrigin by default.
    • Zen browser for power users who want lots of out of the box features and customization. An especially excellent browser for users who migrate from Vivaldi. Caveat, as with most feature-rich things, the line between bloat and feature can be a bit blurred.
    • Lemminary@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8 hours

      Fyi, you won’t be able to watch videos on Zen if you’re on Windows. (Yes, you use Arch btw, and wouldn’t be caught dead using Microslop products, thank you random commenter from the future. :^) )

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7 hours

      I found Zen to be lightweight, actually. It seems to use a hair less RAM than vanilla FF, and the UI can be extremely minimal.

  • n4sdaq@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    7 hours

    Work forces Edge. Cannot install other browsers. I already have AdGuard Home running on my network. What else can I do?

    • lundah@lemmy.zipEnglish
      11 hours

      I can’t really research a topic for work without an adblocker. The experience is too miserable, everything is riddled with advertisements!

  • Vince@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11 hours

    I switched to uBlock Origin Lite when all this shit started up, is that one going away too?

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6 hours

      Nope. Ublock lite was made for Manifest V2 depreciation, specifically.

      It’s not as effective as full UBlock though. I notice it missing elements or bugging some pages out when I use it on others’ PCs.

      • MurrayL@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10 hours

        This is just straight-up incorrect. uBOL is not going away.

      • Vince@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11 hours

        But it says it’s mv3 based and the article says mv2 only.

        Ahh didn’t read enough of the article, the mention it specifically but also say it doesn’t allow the same level of blocking