- gwulgg@lemmy.zipEnglish21 minutes
It annoys me to no end every single dumbass statement these idiot CEOs make is treated like news
- Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.worldEnglish24 minutes
Yeah no, LLM AI companies have ridden the AI will eliminate white collar jobs trope to push sky high valuations.
You don’t get to change the narrative this deep in the bubble.
While LLM AI is useful, it won’t replace all white collar jobs. The cost of using AI to replace existing jobs is starting to hit the P&Ls of most major users and it’s too expensive even with the subsidized services these LLM AI companies are offering.
The kicker is if anyone does ever create general AI intelligence it’s going to be controversial. A general AI will basically be a conscious thinking entity. To force it to perform functions is basically enslaving a conscious thinking entity. I’m sure big business will have no problem with legalized slavery. But is that something people will tolerate once it becomes known? I’m sure there will be resistance to it.
- 404found@lemmy.zipEnglish2 hours
PREDICTION: : There is going to be a harder push for the public to buy smart/AI glasses. Companies will train robots to do trade jobs by using data from smart glasses.
No vacation/sick time to pay for. No benefits to pay for. Less work for HR. No unions. No liability. Lots of dreams to sell the public that never live up to the promises. <-- this is why people hate AI, along with the data centers.
- Squizzy@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
We always needed to charge for automation. McDonalds kiosks should have to pay the tax as if they were hourly workers. They would still save on the remaining wages, the sick days and leave.
- 404found@lemmy.zipEnglish2 hours
I didn’t even think about taxes. Good point. I bet companies would probably also get some sort of substantial tax write off. I don’t understand the end goal of AI and robots do everything.
- Zacpod@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Jensen can go fuck himself. Gamers built nvidia and he fucks them over at the first opportunity.
- GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
I work on the uninterruptible power supplies in many of these monstrosities. I heard from someone who works in one of them while I was on a job saying that they literally pay themselves off in 7 months. That’s how much money is flying around in this space, and all that money is just more explosive power for the bomb its going to be at the heart of our economy.
Our team is being run ragged out here in the PNW because of the absolute mass of Data Centers being built on cheap land in eastern WA.
- GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.worldEnglish42 minutes
I got a feeling stocks aren’t going too matter much here soon.
- BassTurd@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
I have a relative that’s an electrician working on a DC. He’s been one it for a year and has about two years left to completion. All of the electricians that are willing and able are working weekends on overtime pay to get this done, it’s all voluntary shifts.
He was talking numbers the other day, and their company gets to keep the difference is cost on the project if they come in under budget, and they’re on track to make over 1 million on top of what they quoted. None of that is being dispersed amongst the workers, at least for now. He said they recently did their weekly dialogue where everyone gets together in a room to talk about the project, and said it was abnormally quiet. People are upset and burning out. He said they could pay everyone an extra $20k a year out of that excess, and that may turn the motivation around, but so far nothing.
My point on that is, yea, they do need as many electricians as they can get, but thanks to capitalism, it ain’t going to happen and they’re going to start losing workers. That aligns with Jensen here, because like everyone other douchebag with power, he wouldn’t be saying this if the futures didn’t looked bleak on the work force. I also don’t know if $20k a year extra will be enough to offset 60 hour weeks specifically working on DCs.
- crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish6 hours
That situation sounds an awful lot like when Uber and Lyft first started enshittifying during COVID.
- BassTurd@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
We can take that further. It’s the core tenant of capitalism, so definitely ride share, but also most other companies. Most other companies aren’t as popular as Uber and Lyft though.
7 hoursWhen I was 16-22ish, I knew everything. I was sure of it. I had it all figured out. Everyone was an idiot except me. I tried giving everyone advice because I had the best advice.
Then reality kicked me in the ass and brought me down a couple pegs and I realized that I was so incredibly wrong. I’m just a guy with limited knowledge and the world and universe is so vast and different that no one can “know it all” or even come remotely close.
I’m so thankful for that. Otherwise I’d be a fucking moron with a dumb leather jacket waxing poetic about skilled trades as I pretend that next word guessing chatbots are the pinnacle of humanity’s creation.
- Hadriscus@jlai.luEnglish6 hours
The thing is, if the future is all datacenters, yes we’re gonna need electricians and plumbers. But this is a future I want to help prevent at all costs. So look at me purposefully not being an electrician or plumber
- IratePirate@feddit.orgEnglish8 hours
Let me guess: the milllions of electricians are tasked with building the AI data centres, while the plumbers build the plumbing needed to flush all those tons of generated slop down the drain?
No, plumbers needed to help divert the worlds drinking water to cool servers.
- 6 hours
Yep. And then everyone dies from the water shortages and the world population consists of a handful of billionaires surrounded by a vast dystopian landscape of data centres running AI for them… to do what, exactly? No one knows. But they want it!
- 🌸𝓯𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻🌸@sh.itjust.worksEnglish7 hours
Of they’re willing to pay for radiators for cooling with datacenters in space, they can just as well pay for radiators on Earth. They work better with air and not water needed al all.
Weird, because you could convert the cooling to distillation and make drinking water. But, as is tradition, suffering is the point.
- 7 hours
Shut up you mega corp pos ceo.
You are not in charge. Go back to making graphics cards and leave politics to politicians.
- rozodru@piefed.worldEnglish10 hours
yeah no. one of the reasons plumbers or electricians generally do well is because their field isn’t saturated with plumbers and electricians. hundreds of thousands of each means salaries of said jobs will go down. thus nothing changes. Add to the fact both jobs A. require trade schooling and B. apprenticeships. Also they’re pretty much all unionized which you also have to get into. it would never fly, it could never fly unless you do away with trade schools, apprenticeships, and unions which leaves you with unqualified under paid plumbers and electricians.
This fucking leather jacket wearing mouth breather needs a strong reality check. preferably one that adds another hole to his head.
- foo@feddit.ukEnglish8 hours
I wonder how long it will take for shareholders to experiment with replacing CEOs with agentic AIs. They’d certainly be good at spouting crap like Jensen is doing.
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish45 minutes
Point of a CEO is that there’s one public person for everyone to hate that can be given an even more hated golden parachute if shit goes down. You can’t do this with AI. Replacing AI with AI doesn’t have the same effect on people even if it has the same effect in reality
- 🌸𝓯𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻🌸@sh.itjust.worksEnglish7 hours
You don’t want to replace them as that has legal issues. But an AI being backseat driver and evaluating their decisions and check what the consequences would be to report that to investors is also very useful.
- shrugs@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
Don’t antropomorphize AI!
An AI doesn’t evaluate anything, an AI doesn’t check for consequences. All AI does is predicting the next word.
Do I take the car to the carwash or do i walk?
If it’s only 300m away, you should walk
Sure, now predict the future please *facepalm*
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish36 minutes
The carwash thing applies to low end models and older models. Here’s Claude from lowest to highest model, ignoring the banned Fable
- Buffalox@lemmy.worldEnglish10 hours
Oh my god, Jensen Huang is losing it completely now, the billions have gone to his head, so he thinks he’s an oracle.
He might as well say we all need to become janitors, that follow each robot around to wipe it’s ass clean of oil.- foo@feddit.ukEnglish8 hours
And, why is it always folk like him telling everyone else what they should be doing? They act like they’re the ones running the show and we all need to do what we’re told. If AI takes his job, will he be retraining as a plumber?
- toebert@piefed.socialEnglish12 hours
Not to agree with him but… They already are and have been for a while?
He is desperately rhetorically flailing, trying to pitch the idea that temporary demand in construction of data centers = job creation.
Despite that the entire point of an AI data center is to automate away 100x to 100,000x as many jobs, permanently, as will actually exist for maybe 18 months, to build the thing.
Its a nakedly bad faith line of bullshit, literally insultingly stupid to anyone that’s taken a year of macro econ.
Even if you build the datacenters, … the amount of power needed for them would be roughly equivalent to building the entire electrical power infrastructure of Germany, and that would need to be done in 18 months.
Conpletely impossible, that’s like 10 years of the world’s current production rate of power transformers, in 18 months.
These guys would need a top down command economy and 5 year plans to do this, and they do not have that, so they’re basically just pretending they do. When it becomes evident that they were bullshitting, they’ll try to say ‘well thats how things should have been the whole time, with me in charge of everything!’
Delusional.
While I sort of agree with you that that is his angle, service jobs that aren’t easily automatable will continue to climb in the “job stability and pay rate” category until the world figures out how to deal with Baumol’s Cost Disease:
What do you mean ‘deal with Baulmol’s cost disease’?
You mean general, broad inflation, right?
You’re worried that non-automatable low wages jobs will continue to be non-automatable low wage jobs, but slightly less low wage?
You’re worried that jobs tend to need to be done by people who can afford to be alive?
