• The Luddites got a bad rap. They weren’t anti-technology. They just knew that the technology was being used to push their wages down and make their hours longer.

    Ned Ludd knew that smashing the machines was sometimes the best option!

    • 5 days

      Yeah, after I learned about his movement, I stopped using the term as a pejorative. They were’ pretty based.

      A lot of the machinery was also dangerous AF.

  • The only technology developed after 2021 was LLM’s and Stable Diffusion

    This is the understanding of a “tech enthusiast”, not someone who’s actually interested in how computers work.

  • Someone is pushing a very stupid narrative about those of us who see the situation as anything other than progress.

  • Thats a bad way of describing enshitification. Yeah people are not interested in buying stuff they already had but for a monthly subscription. That’s literally the only idea anyone in tech has had this decade. Do the same thing for a subscription and slap AI all over it. Get series A funding and sell the company.

  • I like technology (mostly pre-2010), but I think there’s been a philosophical shift in the things that modern tech companies prioritize. AI is a huge part of the problem obviously, but it’s more of a symptom than a cause.

    I want something that I can repair and modify. I want the internals to be easy to access and made out of parts cheap enough for me to replace. I want to be able to play pretend like I’m Terry Davis and not have to deal with UEFI bullshit telling me what I can and can’t run on my computer.

    It’s all a move to walled gardens with very limited access to the OS or hardware, where the focus is on touch screens and amplified UIs. I’m the kind of person who customized Xmonad and Vimperator (RIP, I know there are dupes but it’s not the same) to never even bother with a mouse, and so it all feels unnatural. I spend so much time fighting my autocorrect when I’m on windows or Mac products, another one of those “helpful” features that is forced and obnoxious.

    It’s a move from computers as toy (LEGO set) to computers as toy (needoh squishy). They’ve become machines designed to deliver content and extract data while you zone out. Some of the most fucking fun I’ve had in my life has been spending 6 hours writing PERL to do something I probably could have done manually in 30 minutes or strange journeys into the windows registry as I try to figure out why all of my / changed into ¥, and that’s just not the vibe of anything in modern technology. Everything is designed to hide as much of itself from you.

    • “Oh no! Something went wrong! Better call support” instead of “Error 332: Look it up and fix it”

      • And now, even if you do get the error code, Google and DuckDuckGo are so shit that they’ll find only AI generated slop pages instead of the forum posts with the solution.

  • I think that it’s not that people refuse to use new tech, I think it’s more that most of what is coming out is just worse in terms of usability and functionality in a lot of ways. Not so much a rejection of innovation, but a rejection of the priorities that major industry players have decided on. Like, “improvement” is relative, and what people care about isn’t being improved or actively being regressed.

    They’re making bad products, and people don’t want them.

    • 100% confirm.

      I’m driving a rented car for work this week. It’s a 2025 Chevy Traverse. Not a single engineer was involved in making this car. It’s one of the worst cars I think I’ve ever driven.

      The gear shift is on the steering wheel where the windshield wiper control arm would be normally.

      Shifting requires pulling in that bar and then moving it up or down. To put it in Park, you press a button on the tip of it.

      The parking break is also a button. But it doesn’t work unless the car engine is on. The car engine turns on by also pushing a button.

      Windshield wipers? Button press. Windshield wipers plus cleaning fluid? Same button, but press it harder.

      You want to adjust the treble or bass of the music you’re listening to? You can ONLY do that when the Radio is on. Then turn it off. Then switch to Spotify, etc for added Bass.

      Near collision detection? It’s got the normal lights that light up. But it ALSO has a rumble pack in the driver’s chair that vibrates the left or right side of your balls if something is near that side of the car. How near? Someone walking by it on the sidewalk triggered it when I was at a stop sign, and literally jostled my nuts for 20 seconds.

      This car literally sexually assaults you during near collisions.

      Which I guess might be great if you’re suicidal and want to nut while almost dying.

    • I am so overwhelmed by the visual clutter of Win 11 and the bizarre choices MS made. It’s like every time I want to do something fairly basic I have to relearn everything.

  • I grew up with nearly every stage and major leap of our modern tech. I saw dialup internet and windows 95 and the major shift to XP. I had an original Nintendo and gameboy, and got to witness the evolution to handheld and 3D gaming. I had a flip phone with T9 texting, and saw the first smartphones come about. For me, tech peaked in like 2012, and hasn’t done anything worthwhile or innovative since, with the exception of the steamdeck. The internet has only gotten shittier since, cell phones and PCs have only gotten more expensive and complex, without any major increase in capability. Sure they’re more powerful, but they can’t really do anything new, and all software has only gotten shittier and less efficient. It’s honestly depressing to think about how much hope I had for the tech space in the 2000s and how far we’ve fallen since then.

    • Everything modern also says you don’t own it, only lease access that can be revoked at any time, and also serves you tons of ads while listening to and spying on everything you do.

      But anytime anyone says anything unkind towards the god of technology, they are amish, luddites, fools, etc.

  • I’m not going digital Amish, but I’m trying my best not to let tech oligarchs hoard wealth that they can use to pursue their take on techno feudalism.

    Most things could be nice if they were done environment consciously with something else than profit-oriented data harvesting in mind: social networks, LLMs, even smart glasses.

  • I like that DDG lets you put date perameters on searches. Usually when looking for reciepies, I seach only from 1998-2016.

    lemme get some of that sweet old internet

    • What is annoying is that it doesn’t accept it inline unlike StartPage and Google: hazelnut pancake before:2017. This means I have to click on the selector and write 02-01-1970 (01-01 breaks it) > 01-01-2017 each time.

      • yeah, I get that. Its better than nothing though. Minor annoyances like that, are just that, minor. Of course I dont know the coding, or how simple the fix might be, like you do

        I… usually do 01-01-1998 and 01-01-2016 (the dates ive chosen have no real meaning). What do you mean 01-01 breaks it? Seems to work for me on ddg. I do get results thst were initially published in say, 2009, but the last update will be marked 2025 or somthing, which is fine, and not what I think you mean by breaks it.

        Ill try 02-01, and see if I notice a difference in results

  • Is “digital amish” meant to be a pejorative of some sort?

    They say it like it’s a bad thing?

    • I guess if you consider the word “Amish” to be negative? I mean I despise Amish because of how they treat their animals, but I don’t consider it negative. I’d assume most people don’t.

    • Yeah it’s not really a bad thing if you’re about it. Religious aspects aside the (general, it varies) Amish approach to technology is that each thing is looked at very intentionally with community integrity in mind. Instead of everything for everyone, technology is considered a tool.

      Most people don’t get cell phones to scroll tik tok slop, but they might let a business owner have one with a limited plan for planning jobs for their business.

      Most people don’t get cars because they encourage people to live farther apart and are expensive, but they might allow solar charged e-scooters

    • I take it as a “fixed” reference. Many people know the Amish community hit a point and chose not to use new technology created after that.

      They are not against it, or others using it.

      I don’t interpret the phrase as having malace, just a way to show this might be the new line in the sand.

      Amish 2.0 ?

  • In my mind it is not the age of the technology, but its owner or lack thereof.

  • Make it 1994 and I’m fine with it. Couldn’t care less. I’d trade it all to be back in 1994.

      1. Sooooo many great games and movies released then, and the 90s left a great catalog of both.

      Edit: I started my comment with “2001” but it only says “1.” When I view it? Maybe a bug in my client.

      • {number}{dot} is a Markdown list. Like this:

        1. one
        2. two

        The original Markdown was poorly documented (including in this regard), but most derivatives specify that the numbers are ignored and it just counts from one. Annoying when you are trying to count from zero.

        • Ah this explains it. The full sentence was “2001.” I guess next time I need to make an actual sentence. Thanks! TIL