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- 1 hour
Having btrfs+snapper set up by default sounds good. I wish Debian-based distros in general would finally make a move there. It’s a bit of a meme that folks laud Debian for its stability, but you can easily break it with one wrong command.
And who knows, maybe TuxedoOS adopting it can serve as a proof of concept and get Debian itself to adopt btrfs sooner.
- 3 hours
When my Tuxedo Pulse arrived, I turned it on once to marvel at the fact that it started up straight into Linux. Then restarted it to install Arch btw and never looked back. Fantastic laptop, tho.
- 2 hours
Interesting. They are concerned about security updates delay, but then there is this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-manual/ch10.en.html#security-support-testing
Basically, it says that testing gets security updates later than stable and unstable.
- 5 hours
Moving away from Ubuntu makes absolute sense from what they describe.
I do wonder though, is basing a distro on Debian Testing a good idea? I understand them not wanting to go to the Debian stable as they already have issues with big drift for the cutting edge tools they want to ship breaking have the unintended consequences of breaking stable software. But Debian Testing will add in a constant shift in all the packages; they may be more recent but there is a much greater exposure to bugs.
Tuxedo’s OS will itself become a testing ground for packages in a way it wasn’t before. They’re both moving away from Ubuntu AND moving away from a LTS base. Though I suppose they can always re-base to Debian Stable at it’s next big release if they do find it too cumbersome.
Still, I wonder if this will happen with other distros. I know Mint has a Debian flavour which is seemingly described as a backup “plan B” in-case they felt the need to shift. I can also see the constant forcing of Snap into the ecosystem, and now the vague AI stuff that Tuxedo quote would also prompt a lot of distros to decide how dependent should they be on Ubuntu going forward.
- atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 hours
It sounds kinda like Tuxedo also wants to be Debian’s Fedora.
- endlessvoid@lemmy.todayEnglish7 hours
Probably a good decision in the long run, their rational makes sense. Ubuntu’s stubborn insistence on snap is poor decision making on their part.
I run Tuxedo as my daily driver and look forward to the more rolling release focused strategy.
- 7 hours
Sucks it will take a fresh install, but the whole reason I switched from arch was stability with new feature parity.
- endlessvoid@lemmy.todayEnglish6 hours
sorry, are you saying that Debian testing will be more or less stable than Ubuntu lts?
- 6 hours
Good decision. Ubuntu is a highly complex and specific all-in-one distribution never meant for customization.
- 6 hours
Of course, this is why I’m using MX Linux, it’s Debian based. systemd optional, no snap, no flatpak, stable.
- 8 hours
Is Mint planning the same? I know they have their debian edition, but don’t remember of it was meant to become the main edition at some point.
- 5 hours
It won’t happen any time soon unless Ubuntu does something drastic. I do think it would be a good idea for them to move in that direction, though.
- 26 minutes
It does make sense, though i think you’re right, and they won’t unless Ubuntu does something to force them. Ubuntu has lost so much good grace from the community. I remember the times it was basically the go to distro, and now a lot of comments are recommending not giving it a try.
- 6 hours
I think it’s just a proof of concept in case they feel the need to switch the base. I didn’t head anything indicating that’s the case already
- 22 minutes
Probably. It is good as a backup though, they have options this way, if they decide Ubuntu isn’t a suitable base anymore, they already have things in motion.
