2 hours“I saw all these comments about if you wear those glasses you’re basically a predator or a creep, and I was like, ‘Oh, maybe it’s not a good idea to have those,’” said Kujawa. "I didn’t really think that through all the way… there are a lot of times where it’s not appropriate to wear cameras on your face."
Words to live by.
CEO Mark Zuckerberg remains convinced that smart glasses will eventually replace the smartphone.
Sure, Jan.
CEO Mark Zuckerberg remains convinced that smart glasses will eventually replace the smartphone.
Just a regular reminder that facebook has a massive child sex material trade problem, that they’ve actively done nothing to prevent, but they have called police on reporters reporting on it.
So Zuckerberg wanting his creepnology on every face, in every bathroom, hospital, etc, while he gets a copy of every video, is very much in character
CEO Mark Zuckerberg remains convinced that smart glasses will eventually replace the smartphone.
If they didn’t have a camera, I think they’d stand a better chance. I think they should just be a screen that links to your phone and peripherals. Honestly the little wrist typing input seem pretty cool to me. If I could type with them onto like a low-res glass ink display it’d be fine. I’m not gonna wear a camera on my face nor am I going to wear some bulky nonsense, just no chance. If they could look like slim glasses and take wireless power from something on my neck or headphones, I think they’d be a viable peripheral input product.
Zuckerberg wants wants to put the compute on your face, for some reason. Even turning the phone into a brick you interact with through the peripherals seems unrealistic since the glasses would need to have multicolor display without being bulky. Dude needs some people with basic sense to tell him no and guide him to something more realistic.
- LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyzEnglish1 hour
If they didn’t have a camera they’d be pointless, there’s really no reason to have a screen on your face if it wasn’t to help AR the world.
Which is why it’s going to need an extremely valid reason to use them aside from being a creeper.
There’s a long history of pointless peripherals and people finding obscure use cases. I wouldn’t mind trying to write or code with them. I’m not sure if it’d work since writing these days usually involves a full office suite and coding invovles some sort of IDE… maybe texting? notes in class? Very basic games like Pong? a search function? Reading like a kindle?
I can see some neat little things being appealing.
- Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish17 minutes
There’s a YouTube guy that made his own and uses it as a teleprompter during his videos. Certainly a niche use case.
- 2 hours
“A lot of men and their behaviors have ruined this product.”
Ruined? They’re using it for it’s designed purpose…
- chunes@lemmy.worldEnglish8 minutes
only a matter of time until they come out with a chip that can record whatever your eyes see directly by intercepting their signals to the brain. Have fun with that one, descendents
- 8 minutes
Zuckerberg should never ever ever get a moments peace
Specifically identifying the “pervert glasses” as “pervert Meta Ray-bans” would kill these products even faster. Associating Ray-bans with perversion would surely be a deal breaker.
- Canaconda@lemmy.caEnglish2 hours
“Pedo glasses” has the least syllables. Doesn’t have to be accurate just has to make people feel disgusted at themselves for wearing them.
Start posting “No Meta Sunglasses” signs around playgrounds, schools, and water parks.
Trench Coats and unmarked vans are already synonymous with sexual predators. We got this.
- arin@lemmy.worldEnglish36 minutes
Can we not dilute how horrific pedophilia is with overuse in an unrelated situation?
- Nouvellalia@lemmy.worldEnglish22 minutes
Yeah, I don’t want “pedo” to become as diluted as “rape” is now please.
- ramenshaman@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
Oakley makes them now as well. Ray-ban and Oakley are owned by the same company.
- 2 hours
Pretty sure the only people buying these are literally tech reviewers and actual perverts.
- 2 hours
Apples launch got pushed back I believe, but if they launch next year I don’t think people will be able to put them back in the bag unless they launch at way to high prices
- matlag@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 hours
Well, actually deaf people would have a real use of this device, with the glasses giving them realtime visual clues of surrounding noise and voices, may be even realtime transcriptions?
Smartglasses without a camera would be useful to them.
The glasses don’t have HUDs/screens. There are no real time visual clues.
- 2 hours
Dont know the breakdown of deaf people, but some people are also helped by all these ear/head sets that use reverberations on the bone.
The type of hearing loss would depict whether or not they can be used. (Basically if the internal ear still functions, reverb works, if outside and inside doesn’t work, it won’t help)
I started seeing these a few years ago at my optician; all I could think was all the privacy issues they were going to cause.
- anugeshtu@lemmy.worldEnglish1 hour
I for sure will get downvoted for this. But the glasses are not the problem, it’s the potential misuse. There are actually lots of applications where augmented reality comes in handy, as for example heads up information related to instructions, or, for example, in a much earlier time, people with, e.g., autism, got a feedback with an emoji, what the mood of the other person was. Or, for example, reading sign language without having thousands of hours spent on that. There are so many useful applications and people are just censoring the technology like they would censor the way now it’s mandatory to check for ID’s. I really get the idea, that mass surveillance is bad. No discussion about that. But cameras can be used in a good way. The problematic thing is, that you don’t really can’t tell if somebody is recording you or just using it neatly. But that’s the same with smartphones. Everytime somebody is holding his/her smartphone up, doing something, I also think “is he/she recording me right now? Nah, it’s probably just used properly…”
- Blonohibo@lemmy.zipEnglish26 minutes
Except they aren’t designed to be used that way or marketed that way. Just because they could be useful in certain niche scenarios doesn’t mean most of them are used that way. Also, sign language is too complex for accurate translation using cameras like this. It utilizes facial expressions and space to determine context and intention.
- Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.caEnglish2 hours
As they should be. If I recognized anyone wearing them I would yell ‘pervert glasses on this guy’ to everyone in the vicinity.
There is an Android app that looks for the Bluetooth signatures of these glasses and alerts if they are nearby. Hopefully something exists on iOS devices as well.
Edit: The app is called Nearby Glasses and it is available on iOS and Android.
- davidgro@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
Nearby Glasses
(Play store, also on F-Droid via the IzzyOnDroid repo)
- 5 hours
Cities should be just as afraid of deploying Flock cameras.
Sure, but this is an international thing, Flock is US only. And it’s completely expected to see comments about something US specific written like it’s a global thing (or that nothing outside the US exists) because that’s fucking always the case.
The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can’t comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn’t the US.- CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Did you know tubing cutters are cheap, portable, and silent in their operation?
- Railing5132@lemmy.worldEnglish12 minutes
Attaching to this to remind everyone that these cameras have sensors to scrape rfid, nfc, tpms, Bluetooth, and wifi ssids as well. They’re not ‘license plate readers’. They’re full suite surveillance systems that’ll capture every ID passing by. Your list of remembered wifi connections in your phone is a trackable fingerprint, and unless you take steps, it’s being broadcast every time you turn on wifi.
- CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
Thats what i keep hearing. I bet they have cameras and maybe sim cards too. Along with a spiffy solar panel.
Unfortunately, this has a habit of becoming a self-reinforcing need for authoritarian policing.
“Flock camera destruction” becomes the rationale for more cameras and more cops and more draconian punishments. And this cycle continues so long as the public continues to send up corporate shills and industry hacks to fill the municipal offices.
- Eggyhead@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
Oh good to know. I guess we’ll just have to stick with the alternative. Do nothing and watch it happen anyway.
No, you have to go after the local politicians who keep approving these systems. Electorally of course, you psychos. Your local city council rep is going to feel much more pressure from an angry letter from a voter than your senator would.
Electorally of course, you psychos.
Or not, if push really comes to shove.
But you do have to recognize that you can’t just break the fascade of the machine to get it to stop working.
Follow them around with cameras. They need to feel the dystopian pressure themselves
- matlag@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 hours
They will sue you for harassment. Keep in mind that when it’s done to them, it’s “different”.
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish1 hour
Ignore the vote! If we don’t vote, it delegitimizes the election and then the local government will be forced to ignore everyone that stayed home and still do the awful thing anyway because the winner is an open fascist.
Much better alternative!
This is probably one of the few issues you could really get grass roots bipartisan support on these days. It would have to be marketed right though. Maybe something like “DEI cameras”, or “6G posts”.
Reminds me of Google glass or whatever it was called. It’s not that people aren’t ready, it’s just a bad idea
- TheColonel@reddthat.comEnglish4 hours
I used to run a comedy show during this era.
We straight up kicked those fucks out
- Tim_Bisley@piefed.socialEnglish5 hours
It’s annoying how tech bros phrase products and services so that you don’t get to say no, it’s something like not right now or people aren’t ready. Lots of stuff from pop ups for OneDrive in windows to press releases about Google glass. It’s fascist.
No your product or service is unwanted and no means no.
- 5 hours
I love that big tech was so arrogant they just plum forgot or choose to ignore why those died then.
And then above it they still chose the one thing everyone was mad about, a camera. All they had to do was not put a camera in there but they couldn’t resist.
- lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish5 hours
I think the product that speaks the most about the camera was the Snapchat Spectacles. Snapchat did everything they could to position it strictly as a fun, party-oriented camera that didn’t try to hide what it was but leaned into the fun ways to use it.
And they still died out after the initial hype. Which I think is most telling because, like, here’s this product with the most positive take you could possibly have on “glasses with cameras” and people still didn’t want it. So wth makes Google think the creepy no-fun version will catch on?
- 4 hours
Because it’s the gateway to augmented reality and conditions the public even further I to the assumption they are constantly being surveilled.
- 2 hours
I honestly don’t think so. I think they’re up there, but tech “enthusiasts” (read, tech bros and people who think random gadgets are cool) probably are. They’re happy to waste their money and give money to meta. Creeps are definitely number 2 or 3 though.
- BeMoreCareful@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
They used to say that porn was the real driver of technology for home video.
- acosmichippo@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
90% of the point of these things is having AI analyze what you are looking at (and also monetize it with ads etc).
- kboos1@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Needed the data, if you’re phone is always in your pocket then it’s really hard to get a live video. Better to model their AI to simulate human interactions
True AR? Absolutely not a bad idea, are you kidding me?
Take out the ability to record stealthily and they’re a great idea. Overlay art on walls, place monitors in your real space, do work on a laptop with the screen off, put directions in the actual world so you’re not looking at a screen, and that just what I can think of off the top of my head.
Don’t let the tech conglomerates ruin an amazing tech concept.
Their form factor still isn’t great from what I understand. The tech isn’t properly caught up to the idea. But once it has, it’s going to be a paradigm shift in the way we interact with the digital world similar to the smart phone.
- JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.netEnglish3 hours
For consumers yes, but an AR glasses for technical workers that (for example with an electrician), you could mark and highlight cables in AR that you are working on/ignoring or being able to auto search and send IC identifications on reverse engineering a PCB would be genuinely useful.
lol and that was 5mp, genuinely low res compared to the pervert specs
- ductTapedWindow@lemmy.zipEnglish3 hours
Bad enough that Tesla’s are mobile surveillance nodes. Definitely don’t need cameras going indoors everywhere too.
The problem with Google Glass is that had a form factor which limited what could be done. On top of that it was a beta product and you technically needed to be a developer with I think C language knowledge to be allowed to purchase one. Even if you could buy it the device was like $1,000+ because it wasn’t a consumer ready model.
- 1 hour
Yeah the idea was so bad Apple stopped developing future Apple Vision products and pivoted to release an affordable alternative.
This thread seems to have a whole lot of hopefulness and not much actual data they are going off. If Apple actually launches a good usable pair for a decent price, it will all become “I wish manufacturers never made these” and people yelling pervert at someone on the street will result in them getting sued/arrested/baker acted.
It’s been 12 years since glass went public, I have to imagine someone figured out decent ways to work the upgrades in hardware since into them.
2013 version: 45nm Chip made by Texas instruments.
Any chip from 2026/7 will run laps around it
