Teen boys are using Meta's AI glasses to harass and bully victims -- overwhelmingly girls -- at middle schools and high schools.
  • Snapz@lemmy.world
    5 hours

    Laying the ground for republicans banning eyeglasses entirely - because eyeglasses show intent to learn, which is dangerous…

  • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
    8 hours

    😒 And now they’re going to have put a school wide notice saying no smart glasses and then they’re gonna have people disobey that and not bring a back up pair and then their parents are gonna have to come out of work to bring them not smart glasses.

  • Crostro@lemmy.world
    10 hours

    This is the same argument they had with guns. If girls had their own pervert glasses, they could record the harassment going on. Similar to “if they had a gun, they could defend themselves” I genuinely hate that this is the hot button for a country that represents me than 10 percent of the global population. Let this place rot.

    • Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
      7 hours

      Showing may age here 🤣 but back in 2005, I had a film camera shaped like a juice box that I thought was the coolest thing on the planet. The straw was how you took pictures, the lens was hidden in the logo.

      There was no film in it because I just wanted to show it off but yeah… School didn’t give a fuck.

      Then again I’m autistic and I was super into the spy stuff. I think that came with one of those spy kits and I annoyed the shit out of my family with those beeping door sensors and I genuinely concerned someone by eating the edible paper. I made one of my sisters friends scream at the top of her lungs because she had no idea who I was when I wore the sunglasses with mirrors to see behind you and a fake mustache and I was into disguises.

      But there’s a difference between being a kid and having fun and things inadvertently happening vs being a menace and a dickhead to those around you.

    • VitoRobles@lemmy.todayEnglish
      15 hours

      These devices are expensive.

      Teenage girls - If you spot them… Grab them and smash them.

      • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.caEnglish
        8 hours

        And don’t be afraid to smash the face that wears them. Collateral damage, after all, is always expected.

      • M137@lemmy.world
        7 hours

        As much as I haye the existence of these devices, independent of context bit especially for what this thread is about, I think that isn’t a good idea. I do not trust that the girls have backing and are safe by doing this, any kid who has something this expensive will have parents that have power enough to really fuck with the lives of any girl who’d do this.
        I wish this wasn’t the case, but waves widely at the world proves otherwise.

    • Turret3857@infosec.pubEnglish
      16 hours

      because educators aren’t paid enough to figure out which covert spying devices exist

        • FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          13 hours

          Is taking away stuff from a student not allowed any more or something? Teachers took my shit all the time, oftentimes not to be seen until the end of the school year/semester.

        • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
          16 hours

          I’m in favor of arming the teachers, but only so they can enforce their will on the godless rabble of students Judge Dredd style.

            • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
              15 hours

              Idk man, the Dredd universe seems like such a utopia. Pretty sure this is a great plan.

          • KC_Royalz@lemmy.world
            14 hours

            No need to insult atheists. We need more children growing up not believing

            • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
              13 hours

              Oh my sakes I do apologize, I seem to have trodden on your sensibilities while making my morning appeal to absurdity. Well that just won’t do and I assure you, we’ll make right this most mordacious of slights. Quickly, someone fetch my secretary that I might this very minute draft a memorandum to remedy this travesty - it must be made clear to The Instructors they’re to oppress all faiths, creeds and credos equally! From this day hence, we shall strive to ensure there is no preferential mistreatment of the youth - all must be held equal in the eyes of a judge, jury and examinationer!

    • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works
      16 hours

      Phones, cameras, watches with cameras, GoPros are all all ready allowed, why would this be any different? Some schools even have equipment to rent to make videos, or their news program has some, yearbook group, etc.

      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zipEnglish
        12 hours

        Using a camera as part of a group project is very different from secretly filming people throughout the school day when they’re supposed to be doing other things.

        Surely you can tell the difference…

        • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          9 hours

          Using a camera as part of a group project

          Well in that case the solution is simply to have the school provide such utensils, for use only in the time period when the project takes place.

      • FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        15 hours

        Those are far more obvious when one is filming compared to glasses that can secretly film someone at any time.

        • plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works
          13 hours

          Unlike the security cameras that already do you mean… yeah?

          A school is a public place, there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy.

          • grue@lemmy.world
            13 hours

            A school is a public place, there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy.

            I am fucking sick and tired of this absolute garbage argument.

            “No expectation of privacy” does not mean publicizing any video for any purpose is OK. It does not mean stalking is OK. It does not mean a goddamned panopticon is OK!

            What’s happening now – with every act potentially stored in perpetuity, psycho-analyzed, and fed into generative AI for the purpose of deepfaking or who knows what else – is in a wholly different category that goes beyond “public!”

          • AnonAmy the Silly :3@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            13 hours

            I don’t recall a student being able to bring a security camera to school. In fact, every single security camera I’ve seen in a school has (seemingly) belonged to the school, not to any individual.

  • MML@sh.itjust.works
    2 hours

    We get it you really hate Meta glasses, while they will increase the problem they’re really just a symptom of it, we were just barely getting smart phones when I graduated high school, we had these problems as far back as middle school (and that’s probably just cause that’s when I was old enough to be aware of it) Please explain the difference between my comment and https://sh.itjust.works/comment/26986900

  • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
    14 hours

    A reminder to everyone blaming parents: these children are growing up in a world where privacy doesn’t exist, so how could they value it? Corporations are targeting them and influencing their opinions and changing norms with resources a parent couldn’t even dream of. Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem. We’re not going to suddenly get better parents anyway, sorry.

    • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zipEnglish
      12 hours

      I mean, most of your early value comes from your parents (or closest adult influence), and presumably the parents needed to buy the very expensive device.

      So yeah they can be blamed.

      • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
        8 hours

        Again, we aren’t going to suddenly become good parents as a species even if you’re correct. And blaming the parents gets us where? We have to change all the inadequate parents? Yeah right. Blame doesn’t get you anything but the ability to do nothing and feel superior about it.

        Edit: Everybody that’s saying it’s the individual and not the system: same with cops? We can just tell them to be better and expect results?

        • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
          10 hours

          Blaming shitty people for doing shitty things is fine. Any decent person can recognize the threat they pose. I would never buy a child (or anyone) a pair of these fucking things.

        • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          9 hours

          Blaming is the first step towards getting a solution from the people who caused the issue in the first place. Sometimes it’s not to us, specifically, to fix things.

          Blame and shame, is the name of the game.

    • VanillaWasp@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      9 hours

      Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem

      A system made up of individual people…

      No one EVER wants to take personal responsibility. God forbid a parent actually parent and not just hand their child’s mind over to the state.

      Timmy - Can I have meta glasses / mindrape myself with brainrot?

      Parent - No.

      Problem solved over night.

      Shifting all of the onus onto the “mysterious system” is exactly what causes these issues in the first place. Its a cop out 100%. “Well I know I didnt even try but but but the system.”

      Change happens when individuals nut up and take things into their own hands.

      The parents are shitty parents and will continue to be so as long as people keep hand-waving any and all responsibility.

    • alapakala@quokk.auEnglish
      7 hours

      Yet “it takes a school to raise’m”‽
      It is the parents job to educate children the value of privacy, and how to maintain it.
      Corporations, thus capitalism, exist because the parents have allowed them to invade their privacies too. Corporations wouldn’t exist if the demand for violating privacy existed: the parents are harassers too.

  • EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.appEnglish
    16 hours

    I’ve seen a lot of hand-wringing about boys being victims of the manosphere but I kinda think gen-x are maybe just some of the worst fucking parents

    • moopet@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3 hours

      GenX aren’t usually the parents of school-aged kids are they? I don’t know, say 16 (kid’s age) + 26 (age when parent had child) = 42, which is Millenial currently. Genx would have been on average 5-15 years older.

    • Montagge@lemmy.zip
      16 hours

      Millennials haven’t done any better from what I’ve seen and heard.

      • cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works
        14 hours

        When you are tired after both parents come home from work I can understand why parents would set their kid in front of an ipad, thinking it’s harmless. Only recently are we finding out that the algorithms became extremely addictive, destroy attention spans, and push alt right influencers on impressionable young men. I’m not going to allow my kid on any screen where they have free access to the algorithm until they are at least 16.

    • minorkeys@sh.itjust.works
      14 hours

      Nobody knows how to parent. How could anyone when every lesson you learn is outdated within a decade, if not sooner, and the environment is constantly being filled with new tech that rewrites social norms with little to no oversight? Don’t expect this to improve with millenials, gen z or gen a. As long as the pace of change continues at the rate we have, the challenges of parenthood will be beyond most parents.

    • [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish
      16 hours

      Pretty sure mellenials are the majority of parents, including parents of teens, right now.

      • EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.appEnglish
        16 hours

        I don’t think so? Starting to creep into it though. Gen Z cut off (majority were parented by Gen X) is 14 years old right now, and people are having children older, so I think the gradient is still mostly gen X. Of course that doesn’t make millennials good parents either. I’m admittedly singling out Gen X based on personal vendettas, lol

        • [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish
          15 hours

          Alternating generations don’t really line up with each other that well. Younger Gen Z are children of Mellenials.

          I am on the ass end of Gen X (late 1970s) and almost 50. Most people had kids earlier than me and my kid is about to graduate.

          • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
            11 hours

            It’s really hard to take you seriously when you can’t spell millennial correctly, even with spell check and autocorrect.

          • EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.appEnglish
            15 hours

            The ass end 😆 I guess we could go find the actual mixture if it really mattered.

    • Paul Sutton (zleap)@techhub.social
      16 hours

      @EmilieEasie @Midnight

      Agreed, looking at the article it is the parents or adults who are buying for the kids, or providing an allowance and the kids buy their own.

      This is what happens when generations are raised without the word NO because some numpty has decreed saying no harms children. There was a time when NO meant NO.

      • EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.appEnglish
        16 hours

        I don’t think they’re raised with anything, not much yes either. My parents were really early Gen X, they fit the latchkey stereotype pretty well, and they had SUCH a laissez faire style of parenting that shocked me as I got older and compared more to my friends with boomer parents.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13 hours

    If my hypothetical daughter came home and told me about this, I would raise hell.

    If things escalated, I might even go so far as to track down the district superintendent in public wearing a pair and confront them about whey they weren’t doing anything about it.

    Sometimes, you just need to talk to the right people.

    • alapakala@quokk.auEnglish
      7 hours

      Interesting that you🫵 even need a daughter to “raise hell” with these harassers already harming others’ daughters.

      But do agree in one thing, Meta isn’t the schools’ children’s parents.

  • arin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16 hours

    Stop blaming the kids, it’s the corporation’s fault. Title should be Meta glasses are recording and enabling harassment of underaged school children

    • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      14 hours
      1. Corporation makes evil thing.
      2. Evil people use evil thing.

      There’s enough blame to go around, don’t worry.

    • minorkeys@sh.itjust.works
      14 hours

      So did smart phones a social media and they suffered zero consequences. We’re just lab rats they experiment on with whatever tech decide to make next.

  • Ptsf@lemmy.world
    16 hours

    Kids are being shit asses and using tools for malicious purposes because everyone involved with being responsible for them has shrugged responsibility and action! More at a 11!

  • MushuChupacabra@piefed.worldEnglish
    14 hours

    Teen Boys Are Using Meta Pervert Glasses to Harass and Bully Girls at High Schools and Middle Schools

  • L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works
    15 hours

    As terrifying as it is to finally merge the classical and cyber bullying space, that merely represents the creativity and capability of a child. No company has or ever will secure user data. Hyperbullying is very tame compared to the abuse having access to the perception of almost every single student in almost every high school at almost any time allows for. Social media is obliterating kids enough, they really don’t need AI enhanced tech bro perverts teaming up with Hyperbullies to create the ultimate predatory environment on top of everything…

    So basically, yeah it seems like we’re in Hell right now and we certainly are in the thick of it, but don’t worry. There’s many more depths of horrors beyond mortal comprehension we can fall to.

    On an adjacently related note, it must be impossibly frustrating to write about anything involving minors nowadays since you can’t say any of the victim/perpetrator names or link to any of the footage. So the whole article has to use indirect evidence, pronouns, vague suggestions, and nondescript abstractions to describe anything, which makes the whole article sound like it could be some AI response from a prompt about an AI generated rage-bait trend.

    I do believe that a human writer wrote this to the best of their ability using the facts they have available, but the form their prose must take because of required censorship laws can very easily allow for people to argue the whole thing is AI generated slop and ignore it.