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  • Wow, a lot of variation in this thread!

    I get all my data to my server, then from there I have borgmatic do incremental backups to a backup drive on the same machine (nightly cronjob).

    From there I use Rclone to get the encrypted borg backup to Backblaze B2 for cloud storage.

    So for 3 2 1, my 3 copies are the original, the local backup, and the cloud backup.

    My 2 media are local hard drives and cloud storage (I think it’s fair to consider this a different kind of media).

    And my 1 offsite is the cloud backup.

    Now I’m dumb and have a fear of screwing something up so I have also started burning M-Discs of my critical data (everything except TV/movie/music stuff I can redownload). Though this was a lot more expensive than I was expecting, because of aforementioned me being dumb I already screwed up two discs (they are write once). I’m also doing two copies of each disc.

    Also I have photos/home videos additionally stored in ente, they are super important to me and I wanted a separated copy someone else is looking after.


  • Yeah this isn’t how I’ve used Nextcloud. I let Nextcloud manage the storage on the same server that Nextcloud is installed on. When accessed on the same network the performance of Nextcloud is miles better than the Onedrive website, which I think is a fair way to judge. It is on a decently beefy server though.

    Many people had issues with Nextcloud installs because there were extra steps to get the caching and performance tweaking right. The AIO container made this part much easier by handling it for you, but just in general Nextcloud does need a bit of grunt. I think the recommendation if enabling all components is that you have 5GB RAM and 4 CPU minimum (when talking about VPS - I have it installed locally on an old gaming machine, along with other stuff).

    If the AIO install is slow, then I’d guess something like the server is not powerful enough, the network is not fast enough, or the network drive access is causing lag.









  • Seems the only M-Disc capable writer I can find locally is a portable USB-C connecting one, so if I go with it I’ll probably just store it with the discs. In theory M-Disc is supposed to be resistant to the kinds of things that destroy regular CDs, but making a second copy does sound like a good idea. I could even store the second copy somewhere else (another house) to protect against fire. I have cloud backup but you never know what’s going to happen over 50 years. Or if I die in the fire and no one knows I have the cloud backup.



  • The idea is that I’d swap out drives every 5 years or so. If USB A is no longer in use I’d swap out at that point for something newer. Plus the drives would be powered on every year for the update, it’s just the point that I stop doing it (too old/hit by bus/etc) that the clock would start ticking.

    I do like the M-Disc idea though. Probably a similar price, and more in line with the shelf-stable solution I was looking for.


  • Everyone is saying to avoid flash memory. It doesn’t store well.

    Another suggestion given is M-Disc, which might be a better option because then anyone should be able to throw it in a CD drive and load it without having to worry about the format of the drive and things like that. And even if CDs are not that common anymore, I think people will still know what they are and be able to find a way to load it even in 50 years. Like if someone found a cassette tape today (I know they were common much less than 50 years ago, but it’s hard to find an example since records came back into fashion). Plus M-Discs are designed for long term storage, so I could worry less about bitrot and files getting corrupt etc. They are write once so I’m not going to write over existing content.




  • You are the first person who has recommended SSD for cold storage. Everyone else (including what I’ve googled) says HDD for cold storage, just spin up every year or two and they will be fine. Can you point me at further reading?

    Don’t worry, I’ll SMART check the drives each year as I update as required.

    As for types of drives dying out soon, I can reassess the situation every 5 years when I do drive replacement. I would be confident 2.5" drives will still be readable in 5 years.


  • I have automated backups including to cloud, but I want a separated manual system that cannot get erased if I mess something up (accidentally sync a delete, lose encryption key, forget to pay cloud bill). I have 3 2 1 but it’s all automated and backups are eventually replaced, if it’s not a critical failure I won’t necessarily know I’ve lost something.

    Basically, I specifically want cold storage, and not cloud. I will only add, not delete from it. And I don’t want it encrypted.

    Based on other conversations I’m planning on using duel disks mirrored, zfs, annual updates and disk checks with disks rotated out every 5 years (unless failing/failed). Handling the need for layman retrival of data by including instructions with the hard drives.