Ha, in retrospect I should’ve looked around earlier too!

Thanks for sharing, much appreciated.

Thank fuck social media wasn’t around when I was a weird 10 year old.

I just think of literally all available evidence points one way, it’s pretty silly to argue every piece is incorrect.

You remind me of people defending Cosby et al with “well, sure but they could ALL be lying.” Like, it’s conceivably possible but seems extremely unlikely.

Cheers.

You might just be too online to remember the comment to which you are responding which was:

I think strip clubs are the counterpoint to “both sexes are equally horny.”

You also haven’t even given a thesis statement just, “I dunno can’t say who’s hornier” even though your initial position was in fact

Women are very capable of being horny for horny’s sake.

I mean, I’m not arguing that women can’t or don’t get horny, that’s fucking silly. What I’ve said all along was that I don’t think both genders are equally horny and on the basis of the evidence, it seems like guys are hornier. You can whine about the evidence but you’ve produced nothing to the contrary besides a bunch of complaints that range from tenuous to outright silly. It’s pretty easy to complain about evidence, especially without having to reference reality so much as random hypotheticals. Anyhow, for a last time and for funsies, I’ll laugh through these claims but then I think I’m done. It’s not like this is particularly productive, nor have you made anything close to a compelling point and you seem to have way more spare time than I do. I’m happy to engage with folks but this “NANANANANANANANAANANANANANANA NOTHING CAN BE PROVEN” isn’t a particularly interesting position.

Anyhow, here are your “points” but with logic/jokes.

1. "ahhh, women are put off by porn and in the entire world, no one has figured out how to get them back or build websites catered to them. (Even though such websites exist, and are just much smaller.)

2. Yes, women only like books. And piracy only affects books.

3. Cool. And this affects how most porn is hetero based with the idea you want to see naked women, how? Like, most people running these sites are too dumb to figure out they have another market?

4. “Hey, I’ve accidentally disproven my argument! When I was arguing that women are afraid to go to strip clubs, on dating apps etc and this is why people think women aren’t as horny, I actually meant, any woman who wants to can easily go out and get laid.” Ya can’t have it both ways. Either most women don’t want as much online stuff because it’s so easy and acceptable to go out in the real world and get laid OR they aren’t out in the real world indicators of horniness because of society/fear/etc.

5. This might take the cake for the least thought through “point.” Like, everyone in porn is so uniquely bad at business that they’ve decided women are invaluable despite the plethora of online websites aimed at women.

Have a good day.

They may feel just as much hornyness and express it more privately. How can you be confident?

Great question! If only there were some means to access sexual material in the privacy of one’s home. Some sort of world wide web that allowed users to access pretty much their heart’s desire online… Wait a minute, that exists! And (unsurprisingly) mozt of the sexual material skews heavily male.

For your proposition of equal horniness to be true, one of two must be true: A)women are so repressed they don’t even want sexual materials in which case, even if it’s cultural and not biological, women are functionally less horny or B) they are so terrified that someone will bust in and search their web history which seems kind of a bizzare amount of repression.

Like it is even important for me say wealth inequality in the world means that sex spending better represents rich countries interests?

Okay, can you then admit that in rich countries, it appears that men are, on average, hornier than women?

I mean, yes, sex is often free but if one gender is willing to pay significantly more it seems like a pretty reasonable indicator that one gender values/desires sex more.

I dunno, just seems like you are very much determined that something is true with zero evidence. Some people have religion, you have this belief. Except with religion, there’s not reams of physical evidence you’ve decided to disregard because you dislike the conclusions they represent.

Yes, romance novels are popular, relative to the dying publishing industry. In terms of money per industry, there’s no comparing online porn to smut novels though.

Basically, all you’ve been able to claim is that you have known some ladies you feel are as horny as you think average guys are and no amount of “okay, let’s see if this holds up in the world beyond your perception of a handful of people” will change your mind. It’s kind of wild in a silly little way.

I’m super curious if there’s any evidence anyone could present that would change your mind?

Edit: Was curious, turns out global pornography (all genders) is worth somewhere between 10 and 97 billion annually. In comparison, the entire romance novel industry is worth about almost 1.5 billion.

https://wordsrated.com/romance-novel-sales-statistics/

https://economics-charts.com/how-much-money-does-pornography-make/

Unsure where you’re getting my sample from.

I’m using actual things that exist rather than my own experience because I understand that my experiences are not universal and are inherently subjective. Making blanket statements based on anyone’s experience is nonsensical.

And businesses, like online porn catering to men are pretty decent proof that men are hornier, that’s how capitalism works. Where a desire exists, businesses will fill it. Unless women are drastically poorer (a little so but hardly enough to rationalize an entire industry all but not existing) then a lack of demand indicates… you guessed it, a lack of demand.

As the conversation is about people who exist in the world as it is, not theoretical women in an abstract land, it seems perfectly reasonable to include the current distribution as skewed by current culture.

Did you mean to respond to a different thread where people were talking about biologically and removed culture conditions?

You could just as easily be proving my point as you think you’re proving yours.

How on Earth would the overwhelming majority of strip clubs featuring naked women be evidence that women are as horny as guys?

But fine, remove the physical shame etc. Set your browser to incognito, google porn and let me know how long it takes before you find a site catering to women instead of guys.

I think strip clubs are the counterpoint to “both sexes are equally horny.”

Yes, male strip clubs exist but the vast majority are for people to ogle naked women.

This reminds me of when Bobby Hill thinks Hank’s a millionaire because he doesn’t understand how the finances work.