Seefern

lol shows where my brain is at haha

they’re vc backed? that is offputting.

also whats this about shady dev practices? I haven’t heard about that!

Interesting, thats definitely a plus for fluxer.

I definitely understand that it being hosted in the UK isn’t ideal.

Has fluxer indicated they are considering federation? Also, I don’t feel like federation is the only path forward.

I think Stoat is the better option tbh, no tier pricing models for more features and they don’t ask for any info like a birthday etc.

fluxer has those issue plus:

One thing that worries me a little about fluxer is this:  

    Finally, we can offer commercial licences to companies that want to run Fluxer internally without being bound by the AGPLv3 copyleft terms.  
This is enabled via a contributor-friendly CLA, but it doesn’t create a separate “enterprise edition”.  
It’s still the same Fluxer software everyone else uses.  
- https://blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/  

They have a CLA on contributions. 
So while today Fluxer is licensed as AGPLv3, tomorrow they can pull the rug and change the license, just like everyone else has been doing.  

https://piefed.social/c/pcgaming/p/1787103/discord-keeps-walking-into-rakes-but-teamspeak-is-thriving-after-incredible-surge-of-ne#replies

Stoat is purely open source and donations driven. Just need an email address to sign up and you’re good to go.

Best that we invest into an option now that is more decentralized and community based so we don’t have another discord situation a few years down the line.