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  • maybe it feels like oppression because it is.

    Oppression being committed by who exactly? What demographic currently holds the reigns of power in our governmental and economic hierarchy?

    Nobody in this thread has their mind open to the possibility that structural changes disadvantaging (young, predominantly white) men can happen even when other groups are continuing to be held back.

    What you don’t understand is that if they are coming for young white men now, it’s only because they’ve run out of minorities to disenfranchise. So if everyone nis getting abused now…it’s a class struggle.

    The reason no one is responding to the blooming problems of young white men is because those have been problems everyone else has already been experiencing. And guess what, the majority of young white men didn’t ever want to hear about the problems of everyone else.

    Now that you are experiencing the same issue…does this make you more empathetic to the troubles of your fellow workers…No, you bitch and moan about anyone trying to say it’s not just a problem for young white men. You still care nothing about class solidarity, you just want to bitch about your own demographic being kicked out of the free treat club.


  • And as usual, in an act of irony, men are the biggest misandrist, and my biggest source of pain

    I think you’re confusing misandry with people just not liking you. It’s exceedingly rare for men to be harassed or oppressed simply for their gender.

    I don’t like this social contract where I get fucked over no matter what

    Lol, what are you talking about? Everyone keeps saying this shit, but no one is giving any real world examples. I am a man, if there is some social contract that sets men up to lose, why am I not experiencing it? I’m married, I have friends who are women, I work with several women, I don’t have any problems with the opposing sex? Maybe it’s a you problem and not a societal one?

    I’m just going to abandon it, and lead a massive exile with me. I already have a solar panel, and plan to get more.

    Lol, your username is apt. You think you’re going to be the Moses of incels and lead a bunch of morons off to the woods with nothing but a solar panel?


  • You don’t believe in equality, PERIOD. Because people like you oppose women being drafted.

    Wrong fuck face, I don’t believe in the draft for men or women.

    You also deny systemic misandry like the alimony laws & even support policies like abolishing prisons for women & reduced sentencing for women & only women.

    The majority of law makers are men, the majority of judges are men, the majority of law enforcement officers are men… How is men making rules that you perceive to negatively affect men = misandry?

    There are multiple documented evidences of feminists shaming men into getting drafted while they get to be safe & secure & one of their excuses was “We have a crisis in masculinity

    Lol, you really think the white feathers was a feminist movement?

    Finland has a women-majority govt](https://www.forbes.com/sites/carmenniethammer/2019/12/12/finlands-new-government-is-young-and-led-by-women-heres-what-the-country-does-to-promote-diversity/), of course the diversity part is a lie.

    “Moreover, almost half (47%) of the country’s” having a woman as the leader doesn’t mean they have the majority. You’re either lying or you can’t fucking read.

    I like that you posted an article praising the quality of living and equity in a country and think it helps your argument.

    EU is led by feminists & BTW, pandering to women is also feminism, there are literally reserved seats for women & a male-only draft. These are all Equity to you huh

    Lol, I don’t think you know what equity, feminism, or majority means.

    like how you’re putting in so much effort into pushing the narrative that it’s men who do it, when the biggest warmongers just so happen to be women & there’s not a single word of opposition to the draft by feminists.

    Lol, name a time in modern history where a woman was the leader of a nation who started a war…

    Like the White-feather movement being nationalistic, yet it was still women who shamed men into fighting the war (women didn’t want to go to war & even today women as a whole are opposed to conscription for women)

    And you think I like the white feathers? Being a feminist doesn’t mean you support every decision of every woman… That’s just insane. That would be like me blaming every man, for WW2 because Hitler was a dude.

    Reminder women in the military are placed in either guard duty or administration.

    Lol, that’s not even true… Women have been allowed to be in combat roles since 2013.

    And guess what, it’s not the women who say they shouldn’t be


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    The same can be said about you too, you know you are not getting shit done against the ownership class so resorting to insulting and demeaning anyone who appears privileged to you.

    Lol, I’m the same because I’m upset that people aren’t engaging in class consciousness?

    You want to really fight a class war? How about starting by not out of frustration humiliating anyone who has different symptoms of the same problem as you.

    I’m making fun of people who claim to be leftist, but only care about their own demographics. You can’t be a leftist and abandon the very basic idea of class consciousness.

    Sure men talking about their problems is misogyny,

    It is when you talk to them about their problems and all they do is bitch and moan about dei.

    you can’t gate keep the left, and anybody who is reading this, some people at left accept you and adversiory despite of your gender

    Again … This isn’t about their gender. I’m a dude. Its about how they’ve abandoned class consciousness and are demeaning the struggles of their fellow working class by claiming they somehow have it worse than everyone else. And when you ask them why… You just end up getting thinly veiled misogyny.


  • Oh I’m sorry I mistook you for someone who was blaming minorities for their woes… You’re just a guy defending him.

    been constructive. I didn’t lash out and try to put people down for caring about their issues. I didn’t wrap people up in ass-long back and forth threads demanding justification after justification why they care just to find an excuse to pounce, then ride my high horse into the sunset

    If that’s your take on this thread then you’re just as complicit as the rest of these incels.


  • Sure. Real men don’t cry. Real men aren’t weak. Real men toughen up and don’t complain. Real men don’t care about injustice if it’s them who are affected. That’s you.

    Lol, falsely conflating me telling you not to blame POC and women for late stage capitalism with telling you not to cry is pretty hilarious.

    What injustice are you facing that generations of women and immigrants haven’t been receiving the whole time?

    I’m not telling you not to communicate or build support networks, I’m saying don’t blame minorities for the lack of those support networks.



  • Men huh, Finland is a feminist govt that has a male-only draft.

    Men still make up the majority of the parliament in Finland, though that particular country has a long history of promoting equity.

    Oh & EU is feminist led

    You mean that the EU has leaders who are feminist… Men still hold the majority of the seats.

    Feminists & women are pandered to by those men. Those men are kinda like you.

    Oh no… People who believe in equality…the tragedy.

    Of course some like you is going to victim blame men

    How exactly are you being victimized while I am not… and we’re both men?

    Another example is the white feather movement

    Lol, that was a nationalistic movement to get people to go to war. I don’t really think women were really in control of the war effort during WW2.



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    Women have strong support movement on their side. It’s not something they gain only through their sex, but rather something they gain I think mostly due to the same gender stereotypes that also act against them.

    That seems like a self inflicted issue… What are women supposed to do about this? In my life it has usually been women begging their husbands to speak to them or to go to therapy.

    Same stereotypes which isolate men and make them suffer in silence and alone, making showing any sign of weakness a fatal mistake.

    And who propogates and sustains this stereotype? Sounds like you should be mad at men.

    honestly don’t see your point here - what commenter above you said is right, and sure as hell they didn’t mention that it doesn’t work the other way around.

    That would imply it’s not simply a mens problem…

    What are men problems, huh? Like, dunno, expectation to always go after that false masculinity. Also, as far as I understand it, what you quoted above this part is just continuation of the point above it, nothing to add here.

    The person I responded to was saying women were being targeted by capitalistic marketing… How is that a mens problem. My point is that it’s not a mens problem it’s a capitalist problem.

    Yeah, but affects genders differently. Men are eaten, ground to a paste and then spat out. Women are bellitled and their work is seen as substandard. One side doesn’t make the other any less, both are problems and commenter above you didn’t say men have it worse, just that they suffer from it.

    Lol, so it’s a class problem… Of course the poor suffer, that’s why we’re supposed to have class solidarity, not become misogynistic.

    Men do not get help. We do not have the same societal networks that women have to get together and stand up. And even if women decided to fight for us, it’s for naught until we are able to start getting up by ourselves.

    That doesn’t explain the blatant misogyny in this thread and in the youth in general.

    kay. What’s with that obsession with women? Commenter above you mentioned once that feminism can use men to portray them as evil, which they do because guess who makes them suffer most, and yet due to that you immediately went and threw everything they said as if they did nothing else but accuse women of men’s suffering.

    This whole thread and post is about the gender dynamic and the blooming network of misogyny. And because his interpretation of economics is devoid of class consciousness, he and you only focus on the problems of young men, which is a demographic and not a class.

    Women gain on current situation so it makes sense they don’t act.

    • Corporations gain on current situation so it makes sense they don’t act.
    • Rich gain, and even if not then loose nothing on current situation so it makes sense they don’t act.

    How do women gain? Who runs the corporations?

    , the incentive is for us to move our asses, take notes from women and build our own support networks. But that is actually fought against by conservatists/right-wingers, because lonely and lost men make cheap and easily influenced canon fodder.

    Who do you think runs the fucking world already…its us, men.

    So obviously nwe don’t need much support that is just based on gender. Of the people doing well right now…it’s mostly men.

    What separates us and the people who run the world isn’t gender…its class. You can’t build a supportive class network and only focus on young men.



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    In nearly every society on earth, since the beginning of recorded history… Men have achieved nearly a totalitarian monopoly in nearly every hierarchy of power.

    Even today, what gender are the majority of ceo, the congressmen, the senator, the judges, prosecutors, and the police? Examine the leadership of nearly any hierarchical body of control and the majority of these positions are men… So what power is attacking men, what industry, what laws…If it’s men attacking young men…then it’s not a gender issue, it’s a class issue you fucking children.

    problem is the systemic impoverishment of young men is the root cause of all this, and that is what needs to be fixed if you want to fix misogyny.

    You are using misogyny as a negotiation tactic? “Guess will just have to let bad things happen to you until boys get their treats again…”

    What a fucking loser. Can’t cope with not getting insta middle class for nothing so they become a reactionary chode… Real great class solidarity bro.


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    From the 70’s to a few months ago, governments have made it a fundamental priority to elevate women and minorities, and it’s worked. (Go look at the demographics of college enrollment, at least here in the US, if you don’t believe me.)

    And when exactly did those college enrollment demographics change? Oh yeah, the moment college degrees became worthless. White men are choosing not to go to college, they aren’t being forced, were not running out of colleges.

    I’m arguing that to fix misogyny you have to fix the fundamental economic crises affecting young people

    Well, you’re not just saying that… If we were to say start a program to fix the economic crisis that is effecting the youth, how would you go about doing that? Oh by targeting the most disadvantaged demographics…oh no, that would be…DEI.

    blaming young men and pretending these problems simply don’t exist.

    You are the one pretending as if this was only a problem for young white men. You’re just taking your licks for the first time and being a baby about it.


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    Your argument and vitriole is a nice example of weaponized self-righteousness. You think because you’re aware of a class of people that has a disadvantage in labor, that makes your opinion on that group more valuable than others, and instead of having the conversation about labor or why some men fall prey to bullshit, because of vitriole like this that serves only to alienate, you’re playing right into the hands of people who divide labor and reap profits.

    Lol, you aren’t accepting their argument because they didn’t say please and thank you?

    You are accepting that women are a more disadvantaged labour class, but are being a prissy little prick because they are upset about it? That’s the softest shit I’ve ever seen.

    Show some class solidarity for your sisters, the most disadvantaged need to be lifted first. Stop whining like a 4 year old, we men have every advantage in this system compared to our counterparts. Though I’d hardly acknowledge nearly anyone in this thread as a man. Weak shit.


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    Is there even an incentive for solving men’s problems?

    What are men’s problems? What problem do we suffer that also doesn’t affect women?

    Feminism can use men to portray the ultimate evil; influencers can use that portrayal to criticize men, engage in rage bait, get attention and secure brand deals.

    Isn’t that what you are doing to feminist right now? Isn’t that what the article is talking about with the man-o-sphere?

    Capitalism can appease women to promote consumerism wrapped in feminism. Corporations can capitalize on men’s loneliness and low self-worth.

    Lol, like we men are immune from corporations promoting masculinity? Old spice, axe body spray, every sports based commercial… What gender do you think the majority of the CEO for these companies are?

    have noticed that men with low self-worth find meaning in work, which ultimately profits corporations, the money they will earn will be expanded on consumerisms/additions which again can be profited by capitalism and corporate.

    Capitalism isn’t a fucking gender problem…it is the thing making everyone’s lives miserable. If we wanted to examine gender in capitalism we can take a look at which of the genders gains more from the system. What percent of the oligarchs are men, how many billionaires are men, how many senators and judges that keep the system going… it’s mostly dudes.

    The rich can have as many resources as they want, so why solve it? Other than individuals (men) taking matters in their own hands and rescuing each other I don’t think there is enough incentive to help men as community or whole

    And the rich switch genders or something? Women can’t be part of the struggle against capitalism? What is wrong with you guys, do you not have mothers, sisters, women in your lives who are just friends?

    I can’t be the only one here who thinks this is insane, right?

    Young white men are being squeezed out of the ownership class for the first time and it’s because it’s the only demographic that hasn’t already been squeezed at this late stage of capitalism. The problem isn’t with women, it is the economic system that dangles a carrot for some, so they’ll wield the stick against others…and we’re all out of carrots. Welcome to the party, everyone else has been getting the stick the whole fucking time.