thanks, I think I know that one, but yeah as you said it is not a real security audit and the person itself said so

thanks!

could you provide some source/link to the SimpleX security audits? I would like to look into it, thanks in advance!

does Briar has security audits you could point to? thanks in advance

does that one has security audits? thanks in advance

yet the reason that “Signal is expensive” https://signal.org/blog/signal-is-expensive/ is because they didn’t go for a federated approach, they spend more money just to keep the servers running than resources spent on development

You can always look at their history “complying” to government orders to hand over user data.

IIRC by US law they are not allowed to disclose requests from US gov itself

so live tests seem about as good as a security audit.

I would rather prefer real security audits

I didn’t want to advice/promote DeltaChat/ArcaneChat, they are not the only possible way of using email securely, just came here with the meme as a way of leaving out a rant because I have seen a lot of people talking like that and it is by now an urban legend people just repeat like parrots and pointing to articles that basically are misleading. Had a recent discussion about that in the Privacy Guides forum and just came here with the meme to shake the frustration away ;-)

it is all about the sassy retro style and base64 MIME body

more seriously: Signal is centralized and based on phone numbers, and as said by Signal themselves: “Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive” https://signal.org/blog/signal-is-expensive/ while email infra is WAY more economic and decentralized

SimpleX maybe but I it is not powerful/flexible nor as solid/mature as email server infra