For context, in my password manager I had tried formatting some of my entrees so that it would contain the usual username and password, but instead of creating whole new entrees for the security questions for the same account, I just added additional fields in the same entree in order to keep things a little more tidy.

I was not expecting that doing so would result in later being shaken down by Proton to pay even more money just to access the same few bytes of fucking text I had trusted them with. This is sleazy as fuck and I am dropping these idiots entirely.

  • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
    41·
    3 days ago

    I had to look into it, because their pricing plans seem to have changed now. Evidently I have something called Proton Plus, $4.99 per month. It looks like that plans benefits do not extend to additional Proton Pass features.

    I’m going to be transferring accounts away from Proton and then closing my accounts entirely. Already moved all my passwords back to Keepass. My main email address has been on posteo(.de), which has been great. Super reliable service from a company who appears to actually get the ethos of FOSS. I only pay, I think $12 per year for their service.

    • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
      66·
      3 days ago

      Yeah I thought so. If ya don’t pay for it, ya don’t get to complain about it, bud.

      • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
        76·
        3 days ago

        I’m sorry, but what? Number one, we’re talking about text. Bytes of data, which costs next to nothing to store. If you think that it is in any way fair for a company to allow a person to enter information into an account, and then unexpectedly charge them to access that same data, you are insane. If you paid for a storage rental, moved your belongings into it, and then found that the company changed the lock and decided you had to pay more to get your stuff - would you continue renting that storage?

        Go back to reddit, corposhill.

        • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
          13·
          2 days ago

          we’re talking about text. Bytes of data, which costs next to nothing to store.

          No but your files are not stored as text files. That’s not what you’re paying for. You’re paying for the development of the software used to create, store and fill them at the appropriate times and places. If you don’t care about that, just keep them stored as text files on your computer. Boom, problem solved.

          If you paid for a storage rental, moved your belongings into it, and then found that the company changed the lock and decided you had to pay more to get your stuff

          You keep using that phrase. You are not “paying more” because you never paid anything in the first place.

          Go back to reddit, corposhill.

          If you think Reddit is the only place that’s going to call you out for being a choosy beggar, you’re in for a surprise.

          • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
            21·
            2 days ago

            No but your files are not stored as text files. That’s not what you’re paying for. You’re paying for the development of the software used to create, store and fill them at the appropriate times and places. If you don’t care about that, just keep them stored as text files on your computer. Boom, problem solved.

            But you say just below this that I never paid for anything in the first place? In any case, whether paid or not, they still have to compete with other options including free ones like Keepass. Why would I pay for Proton over the free Keepass if Proton is basically ransomware?

            You keep using that phrase. You are not “paying more” because you never paid anything in the first place.

            Untrue. I was paying for it, and they required that I pay even more just to access the data that their system allowed me to enter.

            If you think Reddit is the only place that’s going to call you out for being a choosy beggar, you’re in for a surprise.

            You rn:

            • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
              11·
              2 days ago

              you say just below this that I never paid for anything in the first place?

              Excuse me, let me correct myself: That’s what you’re not paying for. Better? Does that make you anymore correct?

              Why would I pay for Proton over the free Keepass if Proton is basically ransomware?

              KeePass is local storage. It’s not managed. But by all means, If you don’t see the value, use KeePass. Not sure what you’re complaining here for.

              I was paying for it

              Okay, so you stopped paying for it. That’s why you can no longer access it. You can still export your data and import it into KeePass. So go do it.

              You rn:

              1. Proton is most certainly not a multi-billion dollar corporation, moron.
              2. Your argument suggest that corporations aren’t possibly able to hold a valid argument. I’m not siding with the corporations, I’m siding with basic logic and reason. It’s not complicated. You are not entitled to anything they offer if you don’t pay for it.