1 yearMe using this in Roman times.
Roman 1: Is that poor guy dying?
Roman 2: No that’s just him every morning.
You misunderstand. I don’t have an issue with things not moving enough. Mine is moving too much.
My problems are beyond your fiber’s skills or magic. I was born with IBS and I will die with it.
- Fermion@feddit.nlEnglish1 year
True. If your gut has decided that its purpose is to hate you and everything you eat, then no amount of fiber will convince it otherwise.
IBS isn’t always lifelong though. I hope you can work out a diet that avoids angering the growling intenstinal gremlins.
- baines@lemmy.cafeEnglish1 year
costco fiber pills
you don’t understand how bad it is until you do (not you specifically), I always just lived with it
but these pills literally changed my life
it pretty much resolved my ibs, eating fiber and the water soluble powder never did a thing for me but these pills have been magic
- 1 year
water soluble powder
Oh god I’m having flashbacks… That shit is nasty.
Quit trying to kill me with your fiber! I assure you I have tried it. It doesn’t like me.
- superkret@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
Stop resisting and swallow your fiber! We know better how your gut works than you!
/s
- Etterra@discuss.onlineEnglish1 year
You wanted to be first in line for the new sponge, that’s for sure.
- superkret@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
Current research doesn’t support that.
Most likely, the sponge sticks were used as a toilet brush, and pieces of cloth were used to wipe.
- superkret@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
Current research doesn’t support that.
Most likely, the sponge sticks were used as a toilet brush, and pieces of cloth were used to wipe.Also “without privacy” is also in question, because you could use cloth partitions hanging from a rod; something known to be used in stadiums to separate class.
- superkret@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
Afaik there’s an original source that makes fun of a guy who hung out on the toilet all day, hoping to strike up a conversation that’ll get him invited to dinner.
That would imply it was a social thing.- 1 year
It would imply that guy thought it was a social thing. Y’never know, maybe he was a weirdo even then. He could’ve been the proto-creeper whose descendants haunt public restrooms to this day.
- Fedizen@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
You can do that in a stall. My proof that there were no curtains would be the temptation to wipe an ass on them. My guess is most people wore enough robes to cover up their stuff while sitting
- superkret@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
“Vacerra spends hours in all the privies, sitting all day long.
Vacerra doesn’t want a shit, he wants a dinner.”(Martial, XI.LXXVII)
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0506%3Abook%3D11%3Apoem%3D77
- GregorGizeh@lemmy.zipEnglish1 year
Good to know, i had a hard time anyway believing that humans of any societal development stage would literally share a feces encrusted rag on a stick, to clean themselves. Certainly would be less nasty to just get up and leave without wiping at all.
- Fedizen@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
They had running water there. My guess would be it was a rinse and share situation
i just assumed everyone is just grossed out by it regardless of whether they fucking cleaned it in bleach, there’s simply no way to make a shared sponge feel acceptable
- Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.caEnglish1 year
The mistake is attributing modern social norms onto people from thousands of years ago.
We are all products of the conventions of our times.
less than 100 years ago, certain people were grossed out by sharing a diner counter with an African American. 300 years before that, some people thought that bathing was the cause of disease since it unclogged your pores and made you susceptible.
Just because you (and I…let’s be clear) think it’s gross today, doesn’t mean we would have back then.
- GregorGizeh@lemmy.zipEnglish1 year
This so much. I would use virtually anything else before I would willingly go near a public asshole cleaner.
- 1 year
You feel this way because you know about germs… Back in the 1800s, surgeons would do brain surgeries with bare hands, wiping them in their pants and calling it a day
- I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Except they didn’t call it a day, they went and delivered babies, with surgery goo on their hands, and flipped the fuck out when some guy did experiments showing that fewer women died in child birth when the doctor washed his fucking hands first. Hard pass on the hand washing, pal.
- Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.caEnglish1 year
Source?
I don’t mean that in an “I don’t believe you” way.
I literally mean that in an “I majored in Archaeology and would be interested in reading that since it’s been more than 20 years since my knowledge was up to date.”
- superkret@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
- Gilbert Wiplinger: “Der Gebrauch des Xylospongiums – eine neue Theorie zu den hygienischen Verhältnissen in römischen Latrinen”. In: SPA . SANITAS PER AQUAM. Tagungsband des Internationalen Frontinus-Symposiums zur Technik – und Kulturgeschichte der antiken Thermen Aachen, 18. – 22. März 2009. Frontinus-Gesellschaft e.V. & Peeters, Leiden 2012. ISBN 978-90-429-2661-5. pp. 295–304.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xylospongium
- taxiiiii@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
you repurpose old fabric. same as with rags. as for what they’d do with it: likely wash and reuse them. same as with cloth diapers nowadays.
the alternatives would be leaves from certain plants or water and a hand.
- superkret@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
This is my interpretation: They’d use scraps left over from making clothes, collect them in a bin and have slaves boil and wash them to re-use.
And it was likely a thing for rich people, the poor would just use their left hand and eat with the right.
- Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Nope, the separator structures just didn’t survive so we don’t know how “communal bathrooms” looked they could have had wooden walls around them but you know wood doesn’t last very long.
- superkret@feddit.orgEnglish1 year
We have more to go off, though.
Surviving texts speak of the social aspect of shitting.- Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish1 year
Yes but Rome was huge to apply one scenario to all the empire is kinda silly.
- 1 year
Is that an opinion among history experts, or a deduction based on your observations? I’ve never heard this theory before, but I’d love to read more if you’ve got information.
I mean, the spacing looks like it would be pretty squishy if you had little wall separators between each spot
- Auli@lemmy.caEnglish1 year
Really but for most of human history your parents having sex with you in the room or same bed wasn’t an issue? People didn’t care it’s the way things where.
People are so prissy about bodily functions and genitals and so on these days.
my family’s old farmhouse has communal outhouses. this was the norm until like 150-200 years ago, and was still common here into the early 1900s.
- GooberEar@lemmy.wtfEnglish1 year
Faustinus: Corn for dinner last night, Octavius?
Octavious: No, what’s corn?
Imagine if you’re taking a shit and a thicc brother sits beside you and now you are touching butts
- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish1 year
Imagine:
It’s 72 degrees, 9am, blue skies, green trees, you’re under just a bit of shade, there’s a cool, fresh breeze, and
shittingsitting on a bench like the one in the picture with your honey, both giggling while the sounds of a river directly underneath you sweep away and clean all the waste as birds chip and you both talk about something inane like how jjk is just naruto on adderall and what’s going to be for breakfast. When you think about it, this is what we do too today… Says I while I sit on the loo…
Our diets have changed, so the sponge has been replaced with the poop knife.
- ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.comEnglish1 year
Some places in China still have the shitter trough. Pro tip is to sit upstream or else it all goes by you. Last time I went in one of though was in a smaller* town’s bus station. Still cracks me up that two uncles were both using it and one of them got up and turned to the other and said 慢慢拉. This phrase is typically used for something like 慢慢来 to mean take your time but he used it to say poo slowly or take your time pooing. Makes it even better that these squat stalls on the trough were like four feet tall so when you stand up you can see everyone.
- ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.comEnglish1 year
Also makes me think of my father’s story from playing football in college. The toilets were facing each other with no stalls so men setup a table and played chess as they pooped. Simpler times.
