• Arkouda@lemmy.caOP
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    3 months ago

    Capitalists don’t really benefit under Fascism, so I don’t see why a true Capitalist would support a fascist and help them gain power.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah but the choice is between socialism and fascism, and capitalists stand to lose a lot under socialism.

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      3 months ago

      Not only do capitalists benefit from fascism, as history has consistently shown, but fascism is the end result of capitalism.

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        3 months ago

        Capitalism is an Economic structure, Fascism is a Political ideology. Fascism does not benefit a Capitalist because it imposes heavy regulation on the free market to benefit themselves which is anti Capitalist.

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                3 months ago

                Who on earth told you the free market had anything to do with capitalism? LOL.

                Feel free to explain how this is a good faith comment.

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                  They’re talking about capitalism in practice. In practice, economic policy is shaped less by ideology and more by they relative power of economic classes. When the rich have power, they get policies that favor themselves enacted, and vice versa. It’s only in theory that capitalism is about “free markets,” in practice, the rich support free markets if they alternative is something that’s more harmful to themselves (like taxes and nationalization) and oppose them when the alternative is beneficial to themselves (subsidies).

                  “Free market capitalism” is a purely theoretical idea that has never existed, and will never exist, because someone’s always going to have enough power to get the government to intervene in the economy to promote their own interests. Generally, left-wing people talking about capitalism mean capitalism in practice, not the theoretical idea.

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                    3 months ago

                    Ignoring the core principle of Capitalism, free markets, makes it impossible to actually talk about Capitalism in theory or in practice.

                    Your argument against can be used for every other economic system as well, so it becomes a matter of pros and cons which will never declare a clear winner and always demonstrate a mixed economy is best for everyone involved.

                    I think a blend of Socialism in the form of UBI for basic needs, social housing, full access to education and medical care, mixed with a Capitalist market economy seems likely to be best.