Important changes to Android devices took effect starting Monday.
    • cabbage@piefed.socialEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I believe /e/OS supports a broader range of devices, and it’s also pretty great in my experience. The focus is on getting rid of google (replacing all services with MicroG and nextcloud integration) and blocking trackers while providing a smooth user experience, so it’s security features are not as over the top as Graphene. It’s still a huge freaking improvement over stock Android though, and I find it to be a joy to use.

      On devices supported by the online installer it can be up an running in like 30 minutes, no technical skills required. :)

          • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zipEnglish
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            3 months ago

            I mean, the way I read it is “not a day goes by on which I am not regretting doing this”. So, every day you are regretting it 🤔

      • towerful@programming.devEnglish
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        3 months ago

        This… Except for contactless payment.
        I used graphene for a month. It was lovely. Even things like banking apps worked.
        I don’t care about absolute privacy, but I do care about controlling my privacy. Grapheme gave me that.

        I had only 1 issue.
        Contactless payment.
        It’s extremely convenient to me, from public transport to groceries. I just bop my phone.

        The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I’m sure they wave away the laws because of “financial security” or some other bullshit.
        As if bank card NFC/contactless doesn’t suffer exactly the same issues.
        I looked into some “graphene contactless payment” type systems or workarounds, and I couldn’t find anything that would fill the gap.

        • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          3 months ago

          "The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I’m sure they wave away the laws because of “financial security” or some other bullshit. "

          I don’t know as much as I’d like to about the regulatory side of this, but I know that Google and other big tech have done a masterful job of proactively building themselves into systems such that taking action against them is difficult.

          I think that’s part of why the US antitrust case against Microsoft a few decades ago fizzled out into nothing — even though Microsoft was deemed to have been a monopolist, the big question was how do we remedy that in a way that isn’t going to be harmful? The consensus on this amongst people who I respect is that the results of the Microsoft case was woefully insufficient and something that helped to lay the foundations of the big tech dominance that we see today.

        • khannie@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          This may seem like a silly solution but maybe pop your debit card inside your phone case. It should bop through it.

      • 6nk06@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I installed GrapheneOS for the security and lack of Google. I didn’t know it was a very nice stock Android without any crap. I love it.

        • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          What I’m curious is what kind of ball are you shaped like?

          A golf ball? With divots all over your skin? A basketball? Just round? A baseball? With stitches all over your skin like later years Chucky? A football? Are you Stewie Griffen? Testicles? Wait, are you saying your whole body is one big testicle? Oh my god, the Iron Shiek wasn’t speaking broken english! He was just talking about you!!! “I hit him right in the ball this big!”

    • Venator@lemmy.nzEnglish
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      3 months ago

      Is it just me or does it seem slightly sus that GrapheneOS is only available for Google hardware…