Ring founder Jamie Siminoff is back at the helm of the surveillance doorbell company, and with him is the surveillance-first-privacy-last approach that made Ring one of the most maligned tech devices. Not only is the company reintroducing new versions of old features which would allow police to request footage directly from Ring users, it is also introducing a new feature that would allow police to request live-st

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    3 months ago

    The best thing is you don’t need any of that. Just install normal doorbell. We all love gadgets but some of them are just not worth it.

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      3 months ago

      Hard agree. What does a video doorbell connected to the internet solve? I’m concerned that people dont trust their neighbors to this extent. Sort of a canary in the coal mine type thing.

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        3 months ago

        What does a video doorbell connected to the internet solve? I’m concerned that people dont trust their neighbors to this extent. Sort of a canary in the coal mine type thing.

        It’s not that I don’t trust my neighbors, I don’t trust anyone outside of those I personally know well.

        Growing up around people who abuse hard drugs tends to destroy the trust you have in those around you after you have your shit stolen repeatedly. Both my wife and I had shit stolen from closed front porches when we were growing up, so I have cameras that watch the sides of my house. But I also built my system from scratch, so I am not worried about third party snooping/reporting.

        Plenty of us have good reasons not to trust those around us. Especially in this day and age of terrorists walking around with state authority.

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          Neighbors can be people you dont well, you should still trust them anyways, because you’d want them to treat you the same.

          If you have drug addicts regularly causing you problems, might do you some good to befriend them in some way or help them out, instead of secure your shit and avoid them more. They aren’t any different than you are.

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            3 months ago

            If you’re still talking about getting shit stolen off your porch, anyone within driving distance could be responsible for it.

            Do you really think it’s possible to try to become friends with or “help out” every asshole within a 10 minute drive of where you live? Or even identify everyone in that range who might have sticky fingers?

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                3 months ago

                Not concerned about porch pirates at all

                Not everyone has been blessed with the same gift of blissful ignorance that you have.

                I agree that people shouldn’t order Ring, it’s a shitty product for the reasons laid out in this thread and article. But “just be nicer to everyone around you” is not a viable alternative, and suggesting it is dismissive of the realities other people are living.

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                  I dont order anything, so I dont worry about porch pirates, has nothing to do with “blessings” whatever that refers to.

                  I dont like walking down the sidewalk and realizing I’m being filmed from someone’s doorstep, its unnecessary and invasive. I dont want people around me to feel like that, and all I would get by having cameras is the opportunity to prosecute someone from my community for a petty crime. Not interested in any of that.