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      Yes, because without one government that was helping them out, punishing their competition and funding them, also making regulations convenient for them, Alphabet, Meta and others would be even more powerful. /s

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        …those are all corporations. Nationalization would make it a public service, rather than a corporate profit-driven service like how it is now.

        You can bet that if libraries, for example, became privatized, we’d quickly see several different library companies pop up, each with their own paid book subscription service with exclusive partnerships with various popular authors, much like we have today with streaming platforms. Conversely, if we were to nationalize those streaming platforms, we’d likely see the service transformed to be more akin to our current library service.

        It’s why the rightmost parties generally want to defund many public services and move them to the private sector - it transforms services that we spend money on to benefit the people into services that the people spend money on to benefit corporations.

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        2 months ago

        its almost like their monopoly on the means of production made them powerful and they used that power to control the state. 🤔

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          I think it’s the other way around. See, hosting a service on the Internet carries some obligations.

          The state treats them so that those are much easier to fulfill for these platforms.

          The state gives them very expensive projects.

          The state kills Aaron Schwartz, purely coincidentally also the author of the RSS standard. That thing that comes the closest to a uniform way of aggregating the Web, which would kill a lot of what platforms provide.

          The state makes some of their products standard for the state, making those commercial things necessary to interact with the state.

          So, the state does a lot to give them that monopoly in the first place.

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            the state does a lot to give them that monopoly

            yes that’s precisely what i implied, because they control it in the first place. companies like amazon are more powerful than nation states, and they exercise that power.

            if they make a big mistake or want labour law adjusted, they can get the state to coddle them, because they privately control, say, the entire food supply (ie the means of production) without which the state has no power.

            this has been the capitalist state’s modus operandi for more than 100-200 years. and the oligarch’s power precede it, they shaped it that way back then.

            aaron schwartz was literally just a dude, a tiny player in the game with not even a slight base of comparison with the oligarchs. shit, having a couple million dollar net worth is still not enough to be powerful like oligarchs.