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Yeah that’s fucked. If you are going to let people say “No Christians” or “No Muslims” then “No Zionists” ought to be allowed.
Zionism isn’t even an actual religious belief. It is a political one. A desire for a specific outcome and policies to support it
My autistic ass is going to be nitpicky as well. Zionism deals directly with people who identify with a religion and where they ought to live. I mean it also vaguely alludes to aspects of jewish ethnicity’s since zionism likely also is concerned with athiest but ethnically jewish people unless I am mistaken. There is a lot wrapped up in it.
Also religions have specific outcomes they desire as well.
Regardless, my point people should be allowed to be anti-zionist on Grindr if they can be anti-other-vaguely-equivalent-things.
that’s anisemitism please ban and arrest
I mean “No Jews” is allowed so its not even that they’re worried about antisemitism.
No, no, antisemitism isn’t about hating jews its about hating zionist. The military industrial complex tells me so. /sarcasm/
Though thats how alot of people treat it…
More importantly, what’s a Zionist doing on Grindr? Nethaniadolf doesn’t seem the type to be very rainbow friendly.
Well, not every zionist likes Netanyaho. In fact I think even among them the majority dislike him because basically most of almost every group dislikes Netanyaho ATM. Hes only still in power because of political leverage, fear, etc. Sort of a “Hes a evil psychopath but what if we get instability in this turbulent war time by removing him?”
Also I’ve 100% encountered zionist LGBT people on dating apps. They’ve been either Jewish or Centrist Libs.
Or because of “poor relations” between Islam and LGBT… Which is mostly just any religion and LGBT. Seeing zionism as a lesser evil to Islamic fundamentalism that they associate with Palestinian Nationalism.
There are quite a few magats and conservatives on there.
Let’s take these serious for a moment and pretend that anti zionist = nazi
and zionist = jew
Does grindr really want that Jews meet up with nazis unexpectedly in a private place?
Nazis on Grindr? You must be kidding. No self respecting nazi would ever choose to be gay…
/s just in case that needed to be stated…
Oh please, it’s always the bible thumping hellfire preaching black man lynching baptist pastor/senator that is caught with three underage dicks in his mouth in an airport men’s room. ALL nazis are gay.
Corporations embrace fascism as shallowly as they did DEIA and queer acceptance, but all it takes is a couple of inches of depth to drown if you fall down and become vulnerable… which is something the businessmen and oligarchs, distracted by the incredible gains in wealth they are accruing from the firesale of the foundations of society torn down by fascists, only perceive as a slight annoyance, an ankles deep rising of water, oh no my fancy leather dress shoes are ruined!
Zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.
Jews or Israelis make a strange argument when they call someone from the US like me anti-semitic for being against Israel’s actions. This is a circus people who grew up in the post 9/11 US know intimately, Israel is the modern post cold war colonialism of the US echoed into a different context.
Just because I do not intimately understand the full vibrant depth of history that forms the context that the countless weapon systems, bombs and associated training FROM MY COUNTRY are used to erase doesn’t mean I do not understand the process of erasure and have an indisputable stake in maintaining my moral integrity given the moral weight falls directly on my country for providing the machinery for erasure.
Scholars writing about this time will draw a direct throughline from US colonialism and genocide to the genocide of Palestinians, which isn’t to say Israel does not also uniquely bear a terrible weight here that will last far longer than any of our lives.
I am against anti-semitism, I despise it. So is every anti-Zionist worth their salt and if I know one thing about the activists who show up to champion these causes it is that they will not tolerate people who violate basic human decency no matter if they are on their team or not… that is PRECISELY why they showed up to the protest in the first place. Focus on them as your enemy at your peril for the rightwing is turning very clearly on judaism as a scapegoat even as we speak…
“It seems pretty explicitly pro-colonization and protecting of the ideology that genocide and ethnic cleansing are okay for certain groups to perform as long as it upholds your own personal or capitalistic interests,” Green, a Grindr user I spoke to who also saw this error message, told me. “It’s gross. And to put energy towards protecting a blatantly bigoted ideology and not put the same energy towards protecting minority groups is pathetic. So fuck Grindr and its inability to intersect queer oppression with the oppression of other groups.”
Don’t mistake these words for arguing this is too complicated to understand, that we must all learn even more divisions and categories… no this is the opposite. Our voices call for a simplicity of kindness, which recognizes the foundational humanity of all before any further judgement, a virtue honored by all the worlds major religions for obvious reasons.
Zionism is not anti-semitism for a very simple reason, being against the apartheid state of Israel and its genocide of Palestinians has nothing to do with being against Jews or Judaism. They are seperate concepts period, end of story.
Judging by the rest of your comment, I think you meant anti-zionism is not anti-semitism.
With that said, I agree wholeheartedly.
Personally I’ve always found it quite antisemitic to prescribe all people of the Jewish faith the opinions of the state of Israel, and in turn hold them accountable for the states actions.
When people say anti Zionism is equivalent antisemitism that’s what they are doing, and in turn removing all agency from people of the Jewish faith.
I have yet to ask people who make the argument about this though, but I assume it’d be a shitstorm.
For sure. Zionism itself is very anti-Semitic for that reason.
I was correcting a typo in the post above.
I don’t agree that zionism is anti-semitic per se, because it’s possible to be a zionist without implying all jews are zionists.
I better go check for myself…
This is such a weird stance for American companies and politicians. It truly blows my mind. You can say whatever you want about Americans or anything here. You can even say the president is a pedophile and it’s fine (even if it wasn’t true) but the second you say something bad about Israel because they suck everyone starts flipping their shit.
It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.
How is nobody calling out the fact that millions of Americans think that creating the State of Israel is supposed to fulfill their sadistic, hateful, apocolyptic prophecy fantasy of eternal punishment for people that dare to test their fickle faith. This is a large part of why this world sucks right now. Other than this simple quagmire, world control is about the almighty profit, but this is where these Americans will act counter to profit.
You think its weird America is fascist? Have you been paying attention to anything the past forever?
It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.
Careful buddy. This is an antisemitic trope. The real reason is much simpler. America is just a really evil imperialist entity that will back a fascist settler colonial state in the middle east for geopolitical/oil reasons rather than it being controlled by Israel.
Israel has no ability to control America. Its population is too small and it is almost entirely dependent on US support. If America says jump Israel says how high. America is weird about Israel because it desperately wants to be and it desperately wants to be because the countries voiced ideals do not match is actual reality.
I didn’t say it’s run by Jews I said Israel. If you haven’t noticed Israel is a country that is separate from ours and has been acting horribly. I am allowed to call that out. Don’t start that bullshit. Not all Jewish people agree with Israel they use that as an excuse to cover their atrocities and you are only helping them.
If Israel has no control here why does our president do everything their president asks him to? Seems like they have some form of control even if its not stated explicitly
This is such a weird stance for American companies and politicians. It truly blows my mind. You can say whatever you want about Americans or anything here. You can even say the president is a pedophile and it’s fine (even if it wasn’t true) but the second you say something bad about Israel because they suck everyone starts flipping their shit.
With you so far.
It’s like our whole country is secretly run by Israel or something.
DANGER WILL ROBINSON: That’s cutting it pretty darn close to the whole Jewish cabal bullshit. Your country is not secretly run by Israel. It’s run by reactionary old farts, who’s more afraid of being called antisemitic, than they value human rights.
No it’s not. You are equating Israel to all Jewish people. That’s offensive!
Ah, time for new lingo to pop up.
I propose we go with “no zucchinis”
It’s both innuendo, and can convey the word for Zionist
I bet they are fine if you say you support “settlers” though.
That term pisses me off so much. What human scum those people must be
What about no apartheid?:
Maybe throw “no religious nationalists” in for good measure. State religions don’t have the best track record in the history books.
‘No bigots’ should cover it, shouldn’t it?
That’s weird. Does that mean they can’t say “no rice or spice” anymore too?
Zionism is gay
Looks like the community needs a foss alternative
Clearly, other ideologies are also blocked then correct? Like, you can’t say, “no Christian nationalists” or “no white nationalists” or “no fascists” or “no Neo-Nazis” or “no MAGA”. Right? Right?? You have to accept and expose yourself to all dangerous ideologies equally.
People still use Grindr?
I’m tempted to go back and club penguin that shit.
GoP members. I recall something about higher traffic when they do conventions
I feel like they actually could make their own app with blackjack and hookers.
In fact, forget the app
