• 9 months

    Oh great another centralized repository of data about people (uploaded without their knowledge or consent in the case of the men) that definitely won’t be abused by bad actors

  • 9 months

    Someone saw that Black Mirror episode and said “Let’s make that for real.”

  • Huh…

    Part of these types of things generally seem like a well-intentioned idea, but it’s also so creepy, scammy, and gross. This data won’t stop here by any means, and will be sold or used in a million different even shittier ways. Pretty fucked.

  • 9 months

    If I was going to make something like this, it would have to incorporate trust chains. I don’t care if some maga-hat says this lady is horrible. I care if my good friend Alex says she’s horrible. One person’s “this person won’t shut up about communism” is a big red flag (no pun intended) but for someone else that’s the dream.

    When you sign up, you’d need to be referred to someone or be a root node. Anyone connected to you can be weighted differently. If some section of the tree is misbehaving, prune it.

    But that’s a lot of work

    • 9 months

      Same thing should be done with product reviews, and social media comments, etc., etc.

      Really if someone makes a robust way to have a trust chain that integrates into the Internet at large, that would prevent a whole universe of problems we have in modern society.

    • From the first one

      One profile the New Times uncovered supposedly of a philandering ex-boyfriend was actually a gay man who had spurned a woman’s advances.

  • People should bombard them with DSAR requests.

    If you’re in a state that support data subject removal requests, like California, email [email protected] and say this is a formal DSAR request to remove all of your PII.

    They have 45 days to follow through.

  • 9 months

    Friendly reminder that Facebook started as FaceMash, an app for men at Harvard to rate the attractiveness of women.

    Both are bad. At least these women are nominally using it for safety and not just looks rating.

    Finally, I would be really darn cautious of using any app like FaceMash or Tea. Seems like a great way to get sued for defamation. Or to become the target of escalated behavior of one of the bad ones.

    • 9 months

      I know one of the false electors from the 2020 election. They met their wife on Hot or Not.

  • 9 months

    Kinda wild that app stores allow something like that. I wonder how long it’ll take for someone to build the same up, but with the roles reversed: Men anonymously talking about local women 😬

    • 9 months

      In theory it should be fine the problem is women always assume bad intent on the part of men, and good intent on the part of other women despite a fairly obvious fact that that’s ridiculous.

      The problem is there doesn’t seem to be any system in place for review or correction. What if there someone who just doesn’t like me and posts photos and lies about me? Not only would I have no opportunity to correct the record, but unless someone I knew who was on the app told me about it, I wouldn’t even know because men aren’t allowed on.

    • 9 months

      There was a forum in the Benelux that did exactly that and they had to shut down.

    • Of course they would. It’s only allowed as long as the genders aren’t flipped.

    • Many states in the US have similar regulations. For example, California’s regulations are famously similar to GDPR.

    • 9 months

      If you think about it: The GDPR applies to all data of EU citizens regardless of where they are or where you are. There is no way that this app is not having some EU guy in New York in it and therefore totally in violation of GDPR

      • The treaties and international laws between these countries absolutely allow the EU to enforce GDPR against companies and individuals outside of the EU if it involves an EU citizen as the victim. I know this because I have to work with it every day and I’m from the US.

        • That’s the big part of what makes GDPR so wide-reaching and impactful. It protects European residents, not European IP addresses. If you’re a resident of Europe, you’re covered under GDPR. Even if you’re visiting the US. That’s why even Americans get GDPR questions when visiting sites, because the site can’t just filter by IP location to determine whether or not you need to be shown the GDPR prompt.

          Enforcement can be trickier, sure. But to be clear, GDPR does cover non-European companies as long as they’re interacting with a European resident.

  • So I’ve had multiple GF’s who were physically abusive, cheaters, chronic liars, gaslighters… so is there a version of this for me? Or are men never victims still?

    So glad this didn’t exist like ~15 years ago. My one ex, who decided to start a relationship with her co-worker, while we were looking for and then financing a house… When I broke up with her (like 1 week after closing), while I was trying to process the betrayal, she took to Facebook and text messages spamming EVERYONE a fake story about me, trying to pass herself as the victim. Even including a fake pregnancy! All to make me look bad because I caught her cheating. Thankfully, this app didn’t exist, and several of my female friends reached out to me for my side of the story.

    But all the “stories” on that app, 100% vetted, right? We get unbiased, both sides of the story, right… Evidence was required… right? Because imaging the harm someone could do if they were just petty, or scornful, of just bored. It’s not like women have ever made false rape claims… right…

    I’m not trying to imply my situation is what all men go through… but you can’t just dismiss it, or other men, because it doesn’t fit into your social media-fueled narrative. Yes, some men suck (and that’s selling it short). But, women are just as capable of the same level of suck. We are all, after all, human.

    • People suck, hopefully you were able to take her to court for defamation because what she did is almost the definition of libel where I live (Maryland, US).

    • 9 months

      To answer your question, there have been apps like this for men… but they keep getting taken down after users start posting revenge porn.

    • I also have been attacked by an ex.

      I can see both sides - if it’s an app about suffering abuse, all should be welcome vs there aren’t enough women-only spaces online and those that exist are frequently brigaded.

      Both have reasonable arguments. Likely a compromise where a filter could be set where you can choose to opt your posts into the women-only feed.

      However, my argument would be this app is bad and no one should be on it. Even if all the content is true, a gossip app that covers legally questionable things is likely not a sensible place to hang around.

    • 9 months

      People who pretend to be victims upset me almost as much as people who victimize others (they are not equal, but it is still so fucked up). Victims have a rough enough time already being taken seriously. It doesn’t take more than a few false positives to completely take the air out of legitimate accusations from victims. I wish there was some way to solve this problem.