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    2 months ago

    abduct Chinese paper makers, imprison them, steal the technology

    sneak into China, impersonate religious figures, hide silkworms on your person, sell to a Roman emperor

    sail into China, pretend to be a botanist. Steal tea and grow it in your starving colonies instead of food

    “Why don’t China care about western patents and copyright?”

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        We used to just call that “pointing out hypocrisy” before Americans found a thought terminating phrase for it

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          No, pointing out hypocrisy would be going “hey, didn’t you also blatantly rip off a popular product? Isn’t it hypocritical for you to criticize them for something you also have done?” What Aboutism is defined as: “the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical or that the responder’s misbehavior is not unique or unprecedented.” https://www.britannica.com/topic/whataboutism

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            And, as always, it is in the sealion’s power to determine what is the same, and what is “different but related”.

            Arf arf arf

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              Is this some kind of Russian proverb I’m too human to understand?

              Also, you are very bad at this, it’s blatantly obvious that you have no response to my points, so you just keep trying to deflect and redirect the conversation. So, why don’t we just call it here as a loss for Chinese Apologists?

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                It’s not redirecting the conversation to respond to your statement that whataboutism is when the hypocrisy is “unrelated”. Which conveniently lets you decide what is related or unrelated.

                Do you not consider Russians human?

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                  I gave you the definition of the word, and you have issues with how it is defined, and blame Me saying that I am deciding what is and is not related? Pathetic.

                  Also, no. They are Orcs, plain and simple. If you have a problem with that, go tell that to Ukraine, see how they feel about it.

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      You’re citing examples from the 6th, 4th, and 18th centuries and arguably the last one isn’t even about intellectual property

      Even ignoring the blatant “what aboutism” if your justification for why it’s ok to steal video game ideas is because some Byzantians were mean to you 1400 years ago just know that nobody is going to take you seriously

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        If you think that historical context doesnt inform culture, you must be an American, in possession of neither.

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          So, you’re saying that it is the Chinese culture to steal from others because they were stolen from? That sounds racist as hell.

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            No, but this might shock you, other countries have different definitions of what theft is. Theft is taking something from someone.

            The funny part being that it is literally enshrined in American law that game mechanics can’t be copyrighted, so its not even in the definition of theft in America either.

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        Pretty sure it’s a Russian bot yeah. It seems to have a lot of issues with westerners and Americans in particular.

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          “Issues with westerners” is an odd choice given that I’m Irish but ok.

          It’s not my job to comfort American fragility. Genocide enablers are fair targets in all situations.