Edit: We survived an ice age and we’re very highly adaptable. Plus, we will hold on to some percentage of technical knowledge that will help us adapt faster.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Some humans will survive but, with the state of the world today, I think we’re already pretty close to losing our humanity.

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    When we experience and maybe survive the next mass extinction, its going to be vastly more difficult to reindustrialize / redigitalize even if knowledge persists because we’ve already extracted the most easily accessible materials from the earth and extracting resources is becoming increasingly difficult.

    If you know how to build a battery but you cant build the machines to get the lithium, you just cant build a battery. But I suppose over time we’d find better ways to recycle.

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    Maybe I’m naive but I don’t really see the dooms day

    Climate change has some nasty consequences. However, I don’t see it wiping out 5 billion people.

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      Take the amount of calories that the world can produce per day. Divide by 1500. You got the upper limit the globe can support in a medium term

      Crops are already failing due to droughts and floods. More and more land is turning into land that is not able to sustain crop growth

      And that’s even completely ignoring a potential even bigger problem of clean water

      Billions will die. Not in 5 or 10 years. But earlier than you’d think

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          Well then I suspect you don’t see much of anything. It’s happening before your eyes and you don’t see it? Do you see genocide in Palestine? Do you see fascism in America? Do you see plastic trash in waterways? Do you see homelessness? Do you see the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer? How do you not see the obvious outcome? The only reason we’re still making enough food, is because of petroleum based fertilizer. Without that, we’d have lost billions of people already, or they never would have been born in the first place. That’s unsustainable. And as society breaks down, so does the economy that allowed those fertilizers to exist. Billions die, any way you look at it, billions die and civilization crumbles. Which happens first doesn’t really matter.

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      Bud, it’s just getting started. Wait till the Mississippi is inundated with salt water and flows north depending on the time of day.

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      Yeah, maybe you should look a little harder?

      Wait until crops start dying en masse due to higher temperatures, too many bad insects, too few good insects, no more water.

      Wait until you get your 50 degree celcius Summers, which apparently already started in select countries this year.

      Wait until forest fires become so big that they simply can’t be controlled anymore and start burning down entire cities

      Wait until drinkable water runs out due to us emptying all aquefiers, wells, etc.

      Wait until water, food, etc scarcity due to climate change starts the bigger wars over the scraps that are left

      You won’t have to wait long, we’re working hard on making these features a reality soon.

      I’m not sure what will kill the most people, but I pity those that survive

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        I’m looking for factual peer reviewed research. Do you have a source such as a academic paper or journal?

        I haven’t seen anything to suggest that billions will die. That seems very far fetched to me.

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      A large band around the equator will become unsurvivable. Hundreds of millions of people will flee to cooler climates. Countries will already be straining to provide food and water for their people. This will lead to wars for resources. Nations with nuclear capabilities will fracture and collapse, leaving their weapons in the hands of warlords and despots. Pandemics like COVID will become increasingly more common, not just for humans but for our livestock and crops. I hope you are right, but then again 5 billion might be a conservative estimate.

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    No species lasts forever—and the faster their environment changes, the sooner their expiration date.

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      Depends on what you define as “lasts forever”. We are direct descendants of some kind of a rodent. Yeah, our species has changed “kind of much” since those days, but I wouldn’t worry about that kind of “expiration”. We are some rodents’ grand-grand-grand-…-grandchildren, and I think the rodent would be very much okay with us not looking very squirrellike, if they somehow was to find out they are our ancestor. They’d love us all the same :)

      But of course, in our case, it won’t be that evolution changes us into something else. It’s rather, we will just vault 92’ify ourselves.

  • LifeOfChance@lemmy.world
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    Plus, we will hold on to some percentage of technical knowledge that will help us adapt faster.

    You’re running off the assumption that the survivors know useful information and that theyre also able to utilize that useful information plus be able to source needed materials since they wont have travel

    Example: I know I need an antibiotic for my infection but I dont know how to create that antibiotic or how to guide someone on how to make it. If I did know id also have to get lucky that the region I live in has all the materials needed to make it. We source all around the world for our stuff.

    Likely humanity will survive but probably wont advance as fast as you think.

    • Nay@feddit.nlOP
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      Just for clarification, I don’t think it’ll be fast. It will just be faster than without it.

      Also, I think we’ll hang on to a lot because the survivor base will likely be made up of people from all walks of life. STEM Professionals, teachers, carpenters, you name it. And as long as we learned our lesson about religion, we’ll pass that knowledge on.