If you never pay for music, artists won’t be able to make new music. Where possible buy as directly as possible from the artist, e.g., through bandcamp.
If you send the artist money in the form of a check or a donation more of that money goes to the person who produces the thing.
It’s not possible to reach 100%, but every little bit of your dollar you ensure enters the pocket of a person who worked for a living is one less bit of that dollar that ends up in the hands of a leech or a parasite.
Giving Spotify or Google or Apple or whoever has inserted themselves into the system to absorb money for something that they don’t pay for is fundamentally not healthy for any part of the ecosystem of art.
In a way, I don’t see the point. Like, for example, what would my money do for someone like Metallica? Who’ve made millions for years doing what they do. I’ve pirated their music long ago and I don’t feel guilty because I know they’re a band who has signed contracts that were worth lots of money. Besides concerts, what would I be doing?
That’s pretty much where I would draw the line with these things. If bands and artists have signed with a label, majority of the time, you don’t need to do anything, they’re already making it, that’s what they wanted to do and they did it.
I agree with what you’re saying, and I should have been more clear.
I’m not saying you have to send them money, but if you do let money leave your wallet, we should be trying to make sure it gets to a deserving party.
I think in general, we should avoid giving money to extractive industries that don’t add value and I’m encouraging you to error on the side of sending that money directly to the artist/laborers and cutting out literally everybody else.
I agree with you in that no one needs to be sending money to Metallica.
Because, you’d find this hard to believe, that there are people who want to enjoy a hobby without feeling like selling out. Like there are actual artists who even see signing a contract with a record label as selling out. Because that would mean selling their soul, which countless of artists and bands have done over the years if it mean success and reach. But look at where that got them, might’ve got them fame and money, but it doesn’t attract artists who don’t care.
These artists wouldn’t mind working real jobs while doing what they enjoy. And they don’t mind using services like this. Some artists in the past, even saw pirating as a way of getting out and being known by people, it’s happened before.
If you never pay for music, artists won’t be able to make new music
is fundamentally flawed. Nearly all artists don’t make more than pocket change at best.
Even if we were to abolish all copyright tomorrow and no one would every pay for art again, art would still exist and be published. Because as it turns out, people enjoy making art.
That’s not to say they shouldn’t be paid. Of course people should make a living by selling art. But OP saying art will cease to exist if there is no money is completely wrong.
Never pay for music again, and don’t let anyone you know do that shit either.
That’s quite a big umbrella. You don’t have to pay labels to pay artists. Plenty of artists release HOURS upon HOURS of high quality COMMERCIAL FREE underground bass / drum and bass / jungle / etc. You just have to know where to look.
I plug into the mixer after about 5 minutes in the first link and 10 in the second. Please go pay your local artists and stop listening to cookie cutter produced for the masses music. It’s so much more rewarding when your favorite artists recognize your face and remember your name.
Never pay for music again, and don’t let anyone you know do that shit either.
They come for archives–nothing should be off limits.
If you never pay for music, artists won’t be able to make new music. Where possible buy as directly as possible from the artist, e.g., through bandcamp.
And concerts
If you send the artist money in the form of a check or a donation more of that money goes to the person who produces the thing.
It’s not possible to reach 100%, but every little bit of your dollar you ensure enters the pocket of a person who worked for a living is one less bit of that dollar that ends up in the hands of a leech or a parasite.
Giving Spotify or Google or Apple or whoever has inserted themselves into the system to absorb money for something that they don’t pay for is fundamentally not healthy for any part of the ecosystem of art.
In a way, I don’t see the point. Like, for example, what would my money do for someone like Metallica? Who’ve made millions for years doing what they do. I’ve pirated their music long ago and I don’t feel guilty because I know they’re a band who has signed contracts that were worth lots of money. Besides concerts, what would I be doing?
That’s pretty much where I would draw the line with these things. If bands and artists have signed with a label, majority of the time, you don’t need to do anything, they’re already making it, that’s what they wanted to do and they did it.
It is better to support those who hadn’t.
I agree with what you’re saying, and I should have been more clear.
I’m not saying you have to send them money, but if you do let money leave your wallet, we should be trying to make sure it gets to a deserving party. I think in general, we should avoid giving money to extractive industries that don’t add value and I’m encouraging you to error on the side of sending that money directly to the artist/laborers and cutting out literally everybody else.
I agree with you in that no one needs to be sending money to Metallica.
Open https://bandcamp.com/discover?s=rand and check how many albums have sold more than 5 copies.
How are those artists able to make music without making money? Because according to you, they can’t.
Because with your logic they’d make nothing.
Never heard of passion projects?
Because, you’d find this hard to believe, that there are people who want to enjoy a hobby without feeling like selling out. Like there are actual artists who even see signing a contract with a record label as selling out. Because that would mean selling their soul, which countless of artists and bands have done over the years if it mean success and reach. But look at where that got them, might’ve got them fame and money, but it doesn’t attract artists who don’t care.
These artists wouldn’t mind working real jobs while doing what they enjoy. And they don’t mind using services like this. Some artists in the past, even saw pirating as a way of getting out and being known by people, it’s happened before.
That’s what I’m saying.
The argument:
is fundamentally flawed. Nearly all artists don’t make more than pocket change at best.
Even if we were to abolish all copyright tomorrow and no one would every pay for art again, art would still exist and be published. Because as it turns out, people enjoy making art.
That’s not to say they shouldn’t be paid. Of course people should make a living by selling art. But OP saying art will cease to exist if there is no money is completely wrong.
That’s quite a big umbrella. You don’t have to pay labels to pay artists. Plenty of artists release HOURS upon HOURS of high quality COMMERCIAL FREE underground bass / drum and bass / jungle / etc. You just have to know where to look.
I’m a bass aggregator for my local music scene and here are some artists putting out absolutely high quality shit free to you on the regular: https://odysee.com/@shades:3/liquidSoulBirthday089-4hr20min:6 https://odysee.com/@shades:3/fullcornmoonweek37:1
I plug into the mixer after about 5 minutes in the first link and 10 in the second. Please go pay your local artists and stop listening to cookie cutter produced for the masses music. It’s so much more rewarding when your favorite artists recognize your face and remember your name.