• Axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      We need open bootloader and drivers for phones to make any real progress on this. This is what’s holding back all initiatives.

      • Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 month ago

        I wonder if the generic tablets with made up Asian sounding names that you see on the big marketplaces could work? They could have slightly larger or smaller screens if they’re cheaper than current phone screens, and could have Linux with something like Signal on them for calling.

        They’d probably be lower quality to begin with, but could potentially get better if people start to buy them. They seem to have generic hardware, so might be able to offer the drivers and unlockable bootloaders too :)

    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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      the best outcome for the short term would be to forcibly take away android from google and give it to an independent foundation. as I heard antitrust proceedings in the usa were heading that way a few months ago

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          1 month ago

          why do we need a new one? can’t android be salvaged? lots of things have been solved already in a way that makes a relatively good foundation.

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            1 month ago

            All the non-Google entities that build stuff on Android need to start banding together instead of siloing themselves. If AOSP is being closed, they need to create a non-profit replacement for it.

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              The fucked up part is nowadays third parties like banks or sometimes even governments make apps rely on Google services, so you can’t use an ungoogled phone for stuff you actually need for life…