Briar is a messaging app designed to be used by groups of people to allow for secure and censorship resistant communications.

This technically isn’t self hosted in the strictest sense but I think it is still relevant.

    • sexy_peach@feddit.org
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      Not at all. You’re effectively using a messenger that can only receive messages when your phone has an internet connection because briar doesn’t have servers. Also the connections are made through the Tor network, which hides metadata

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        Briar does not require an internet connection. It can send messages over Bluetooth and WiFi.

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        a messenger that can only receive messages when your phone has an internet connection

        To be fair, that’s true for most messengers, even ones that do have servers.

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          Messages are only sent when both online though, thet’s the bigger difference (unless using Briar Mailbox). Also it can send over wifi and bluetooth without internet connection i.e. no other devices involved.

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            Messages are only sent when both online though

            That’s an entirely different thing, yes. 😄

            I’ve always wondered what the utility is in sending messages over Bluetooth. Exchanging data secretly and securely in person, I guess?

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              Anytime you have bad/no cellular reception. Think being at a large event where the cell network is saturated, or in a rural area with no cell service.

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                Right, but you have to be so close to each other for Bluetooth to work, so it seems very limited in utility. But of course, data exchange in person would be one thing.

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                  Bluetooth has a pretty significant range, especially outdoors. So you might be watching something on the stage while a friend or family member is 300 feet away at a concession stand.

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                    10 hours ago

                    That’s pretty far, that makes it better I guess. Like you could send messages across buildings if you have line of sight e.g. That’s neat.

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                  It transfers across other peers; you don’t have to have a direct connection to the recipient, just an eventual connection to them.

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                    10 hours ago

                    But you have to directly connect to other people’s devices via Bluetooth along the way, right? Like a relay race of handing over the message until you either reach a network, or the recipient?

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                That’s brilliant use, I like it.

                So how does it work? Do you just need to “have Bluetooth turned on” and it reaches the recipient, or do you need to connect to each other somehow? Can this work for a group chat with a family, or colleagues on a conference trip perhaps?

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                  You need to enable Bluetooth as a method of connection in the app settings (and can turn off wifi and data there).

                  The phones can be in airplane mode but with Bluetooth turned back on (as you would to use earbuds).

                  I don’t recall pairing the phones, but there is a “connect via Bluetooth” option on each chat that might be doing that automatically.

                  You link accounts to each other by scanning qr codes.

                  It does have a group chat but I haven’t used it, so I don’t know if that works with Bluetooth alone.

                  I just tried testing this with an old phone of mine, but can’t get it to work right now (maybe because it has Graphene os?), but I have actually used it on flights in the past.