Briar is a messaging app designed to be used by groups of people to allow for secure and censorship resistant communications.

This technically isn’t self hosted in the strictest sense but I think it is still relevant.

      • Leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone
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        18 hours ago

        Could you link me some resources for that? I may need something to demonstrate that to others.

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            17 hours ago

            Lack of audit is not great I agree. I can see from a basic web search that security is an issue but I’m not sure ‘nightmare’ is warranted. The lack of audit seems to be main focus of concern and I’d say thats a judgement call for each person depending on threat model. I was hoping for something more conclusive than that. Its certainly adequate for a more privacy-centric way of communicating than an app that doesn’t cater for Apple users at all.

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              3 hours ago

              I’m never going to recommend something that I can’t get to work reliability. Also the lack of a security audit is a major deal breaker.

              Communications is one of those things that needs to be absolutely solid.

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      1 day ago

      Not at all. You’re effectively using a messenger that can only receive messages when your phone has an internet connection because briar doesn’t have servers. Also the connections are made through the Tor network, which hides metadata

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        21 hours ago

        Briar does not require an internet connection. It can send messages over Bluetooth and WiFi.

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        1 day ago

        a messenger that can only receive messages when your phone has an internet connection

        To be fair, that’s true for most messengers, even ones that do have servers.

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          1 day ago

          Messages are only sent when both online though, thet’s the bigger difference (unless using Briar Mailbox). Also it can send over wifi and bluetooth without internet connection i.e. no other devices involved.

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            24 hours ago

            Messages are only sent when both online though

            That’s an entirely different thing, yes. 😄

            I’ve always wondered what the utility is in sending messages over Bluetooth. Exchanging data secretly and securely in person, I guess?

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              21 hours ago

              Anytime you have bad/no cellular reception. Think being at a large event where the cell network is saturated, or in a rural area with no cell service.

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                19 hours ago

                Right, but you have to be so close to each other for Bluetooth to work, so it seems very limited in utility. But of course, data exchange in person would be one thing.

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                  18 hours ago

                  Bluetooth has a pretty significant range, especially outdoors. So you might be watching something on the stage while a friend or family member is 300 feet away at a concession stand.

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                2 hours ago

                That’s brilliant use, I like it.

                So how does it work? Do you just need to “have Bluetooth turned on” and it reaches the recipient, or do you need to connect to each other somehow? Can this work for a group chat with a family, or colleagues on a conference trip perhaps?

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                  17 hours ago

                  It transfers across other peers; you don’t have to have a direct connection to the recipient, just an eventual connection to them.