I got my non-gamer boomer neighbor on Bitwarden. It’s not that complicated.
She’s never had a job or hobby where she had to use a computer and she picked up “oh, I store all my passwords in this magic browser thing? That’s way more convenient that remembering which kid’s birthday was the password to my email.” I also taught her how to copy and paste using the keyboard (and that you can remind yourself of what the shortcut is by right-clicking and looking at the shortcut hint in the menu).
The difference in complexity in setting up bitwarden and using your own self-hosted instance of bitwarden is fucking massive. For 99.9% of people rhem using bitwarden would greatly improve their password security and bitwarden has proven to be better than the competition.
I use KeePass. It’s just a local file (which you can sync/host how you see fit if you need to). I don’t understand why people choose to use password managers hosted by other people. You almost certainly don’t need that, and it introduces issues and vulnerabilities with little upside.
![TIL that if you search "Password generator, [x] characters, [y] strength" at DuckDuckGo, it will generate a password for you.](https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/31a5b1e1-4330-4a27-aa88-cc47a25acb05.jpeg){kind=link}
If you’re going to auto generate passwords, just use BitWarden.
If you’re going to use a password vault, use one you host yourself and not someone else’s service.
Most people can not host it. Of those who can, many shouldn’t host it, for their own safety.
Well that’s some FUD nonsense to excuse laziness.
If you really think most people are up to it, you live in a bubble.
If you really think most people are up to using a password manager, you live in a bubble.
I got my non-gamer boomer neighbor on Bitwarden. It’s not that complicated.
She’s never had a job or hobby where she had to use a computer and she picked up “oh, I store all my passwords in this magic browser thing? That’s way more convenient that remembering which kid’s birthday was the password to my email.” I also taught her how to copy and paste using the keyboard (and that you can remind yourself of what the shortcut is by right-clicking and looking at the shortcut hint in the menu).
There’s quite a difference in the required level of knowledge between installing an app and self-hosting services.
Lol, no. I don’t trust myselft to keep it well maintained, up to date, nor available when it matters most.
Oh, that’s fine; I’ve been wrong before, too.
The difference in complexity in setting up bitwarden and using your own self-hosted instance of bitwarden is fucking massive. For 99.9% of people rhem using bitwarden would greatly improve their password security and bitwarden has proven to be better than the competition.
FYI Vaultwarden is simpler and should be easier to self-host
Would love to set up Vaultwarden, but I trust my own skills in hardening a server less than Bitwardens
I don’t even trust my server skills enough to open my jellyfin to the internet.
I think for most it’s much easier to have a local file for passwords (keepass) and just sync that using whatever sync software you might be using.
You can host Bitwarden…
So you agree?
I use KeePass. It’s just a local file (which you can sync/host how you see fit if you need to). I don’t understand why people choose to use password managers hosted by other people. You almost certainly don’t need that, and it introduces issues and vulnerabilities with little upside.