• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    Strange charge port placement… aka exactly where the gas tank is on half of normal ICE vehicles. They then try to justify it being strange because Americans don’t back into parking spots most of the time, which is of debatable importance to start with. Then try to say it’s just because it fit Elon’s garage better… But never point out that it’s also where 50% of people are used to their gas cap being already.

    People constantly complain online that EVs do things different just because. Tesla doesn’t make a change and leaves things familiar and people also complain. The only possible objectively better placement is which side would be street side parking. But even then that would change depending on which side of the road you drive on still, so people would still complain.

    For Tesla, until 2024, charging infrastructure was something Tesla built out on their own with the Supercharger network, not something they relied on third parties for. So it didn’t matter where it was placed since they controlled 99.9% of the charging anyway. They built the chargers with the port location already in mind, and that infrastructure didn’t need to consider anyone else because no one else was using Tesla’s connector despite it being openly available. Now that it’s a standard everyone else is adopting they’re having to update the existing locations to better support other car designs, that has nothing to do with where the port is on Tesla vehicles.

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      23 days ago

      If you believe people online my car would constantly be falling apart and in and out of the shop. In reality I’ve only had to take it in twice, once for new tires, and once for a new AC compressor after Tesla detected was bad before it failed (covered under warranty).

      I would not rebuy my car today because there are many more options on the market now, but 5 years ago no other EV could compete. If I needed a new car and I could buy a Tesla from an identical company with a different CEO I would probably consider it…

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        23 days ago

        I have heard entirely opposite experiences from other people - one had to take his car in 40 (!!) times in the span of four or five years.

        I think there’s a serious QA issue if some are getting good cars and others are getting garbage that keeps falling apart.

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          23 days ago

          Yeah that sounds like a terrible experience, let’s not pretend it only affects Tesla though. Lemon laws exist because all auto manufacturers run into issues like this (at different rates, Tesla may be worse then others)

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    24 days ago

    What’s wrong with reverse parking?

    • Backwards parking is actually easier because your front wheels turn.
    • It’s better for your future self. Backing out of a parking spot with reduced visibility is harder and can be dangerous.
    • Overall safety. I used to work in a company where reverse parking was mandatory because in case of an emergency the parking lot could be evacuated faster.
    • Better visibility when leaving the parking spot is safer for other traffic participants
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        23 days ago

        I have to mention I have a reverse camera with guidance lines. I can back into a parking spot nearly as fast and swift as I do forward parking.

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          22 days ago

          I’ve seen some of the nicest vehicles on the planet waste everyone’s time doing this stupid maneuver and I’d gamble they all had rear cameras too.

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            11 days ago

            I have a modest vehicle. Tiny to American standards.

            I’ve seen people fumble front parking quite often too. My wife for example just doesn’t manage to front park in one go while reverse parking comes easy because of the projected guides en the way the car turns as the rear axle is fixed.

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      23 days ago

      If you don’t have to do it for a valid reason (safety), I’d say you are pretty much just inconveniencing everyone around you.

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        23 days ago

        How? If you’re not backing into your spot when parking, you’ll be backing out when leaving the spot.

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          23 days ago

          Because it takes longer to back in than to back out? Read the article that someone else linked

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              23 days ago

              Backing in implies the spot is behind you. If there is someone following you and you decided to drive past a parking spot, stop, switch to reverse, then maybe park in one smooth motion (but also maybe not), they are going to have to back up to get out of your way, then wait while you definitely park slower than someone who is driving forward.

              So… no, not a skill issue.

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                11 days ago

                I don’t know. You see a parking spot. Turn on indicators and reverse. Never had an issue in 25 years of driving.

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    23 days ago

    charge ports should always be on the right, because it allows street side charging. VW is the only one who’s got this right.

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        23 days ago

        get with the times. /s

        More seriously, most parts of the car already need to be changed for the RHD market. punching a hole in the front left fender instead of the front right is not a big problem, and the cable is easy enough to reroute.

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          23 days ago

          get with the times. /s

          The collapsed British times or the currently collapsing US times?

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            23 days ago

            if there’s an XO mandating right-hand drive in the next few weeks, you’ll know which.

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      23 days ago

      This is really the only valid argument for moving it. But even then, it would depend on what side of the street you drive on, albeit that would be a smaller issue since you’d only have the British and a few other former colonies that still drive on the wrong side to worry about.

      The simpler answer is just that street side parking and charging wasn’t really a factor when this was being determined. Hell, third party charging at all wasn’t really a thing.

      The expectation was you’d have a garage at home and you’d install a charger, or the Superchargers which were designed for the charger location. One of the primary advantages of an EV is always having a full charge when you need it, not having to stop to charge unless you’re on a trip. Tesla built their charging infrastructure themselves, so they had complete control over that, and none of them use on street parking. The expectation was people buying $80k+ vehicles will probably have a garage and can install a home charger. The cheaper models came way after that.