Also: probably the worse wikipedia page to accidentally send to the family group chat 👀

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    12 hours ago

    Eh if consenting adults want to fuck each other then who are we to care? I suppose the laws are to reduce the number of birth defects that the system has to help care for.

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      Marriage or even sex doesn’t imply pregnancy, but even if it does, if you start legally banning people from procreating based on the possibility of birth defects, you start having to consider other banning people who have conditions they had no control over from procreating. It’s an ethical quagmire.

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      11 hours ago

      That is one case, which is the reason why it’s usually culturally/genetically frowned upon. The other reason I guess is to prevent abuse in a parent/child relationship, where it’s different because there’s a power difference

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        11 hours ago

        Yeah. It is less “Oh no. This person I met at the bar and fell in love with is actually my cousin” and more “Oh, dad’s been grooming sally since she was 6…”

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          9 hours ago

          Doesn’t need any incest laws for that, when child abuse is already illegal, though.

          Or do you think the predator in that scenario is gonna wait for her to reach legal age?

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            You DO realize that much of human culture and ceremony is about exactly that, right? Like… “debutante balls” and the like are literally “yo, my daughter is legal so who wants to fuck her?”. That is also, largely, the basis for the concept of “grooming”

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              I once went to a convention that was double booked with a Jewish youth convention. It was pretty obvious the whole thing was for having Jewish kids hook up with each other. Also, lots of Youth IDF shirts if you wanted to know for sure what flavor of Judaism was there. I have nothing but respect for anti war Jews.

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          7 hours ago

          Guys I was playing about the roleplay stuff. And I don’t promote incest. I’m just saying if folks are gonna do it, take the precautions to stop the effects of birth.

          My bad y’all.

          Edit cause I made yall mad. I wasn’t ignoring the grooming aspect that can happen. I’m tlaking about 2 consenting adults who night be siblings. If they are consenting and willing to make sure they do not have a pregnancy, I see no problem with it. As long as there is consent and they are adults.

          And no, I’m not into insect because I’m an only child like the buttmunch below me said. I merely tried the role play once or twice with my partner. It was alright. But wasn’t my favorite.

          Anyways my bad guys, I figured y’al could laugh at it, but I seem to have pressed a button and I apologize for that. Excuse any spelling mistake…my phone is cracked and it bright as fuck outside…I can barely see my screen.

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            10 hours ago

            I roleplay that shit with my partner.

            1. SureJan.gif
            2. You REALLY REALLY REALLY do not need to share that shit
            3. There can still be similar power dynamic abuses and grooming even between siblings
            • Speaking of abusive sibling:

              Yo I’m so lucky I’m cis male.

              If I was female, I’m pretty sure that my older brother would’ve SA’ed me.

              Like dude literally used zip ties to tie me up because I was “being annoying” to him…

              like he’s 5 years older than me, so much power over me, like during that incident, I was probably like 6, he was 11…

              so traumatized being unable to move for several hours until my parents came home

              dude has zero boundaries

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              Yes I’m aware siblings can be abusive. I figured we are all smart enough here to know that. And to know I wasn’t talking about theoe dynamics.

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                7 hours ago

                Got it. So we don’t need laws because the people on a pseudo-reddit board are above it. Now tell us more about how you and your “partner” roleplay you fucking your sibling again.

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                  You’re being an asshole. I never said there shouldn’t be laws. My laws would be if you’re gonna do it with your bro or sis, there are rules (laws) that you need to follow.

                  1. Consent
                  2. Adults
                  3. And taking every precaution to prevent pregnancy
                  4. (If we didn’t live in the mad world we do) would be mandatory abortions for any accidental pregnancy.

                  Christ, dude. Are you just wanting to fight? Oh wee, I roleplay with my wife. Omg everyone stop. I do roleplays that might be a little out there. I’m not shitting on her or eating her shit. Calm your ass down you grumpy goose.

                  And what’s with the “partner” thing? I’m 33 yr old. Celebrating my 10th anniversary on Feb 2nd with my partner/wife. What would be my reasons for lying about being with someone? That’s a lame way to try to make me look small while building yourself up. You seem like a bully.

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                    6 hours ago

                    And what you’re not getting is that you can’t meaningfully consent when someone in a position of power and safety has spent years convincing you that the only way to stay safe is to fuck them.