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8 minutesIt seems like there’s a market for a company that will buy Teslas ultra cheap, modifies them heavily, then rebadges them like Alpine does for Renault, AMG does / did for Mercedes, Abarth for Fiat, etc.
These days those are all subsidiaries of the main brand, and even before that they had a cooperative relationship with the main brand. But, I can imagine a setup where the main brand doesn’t support or approve of what the modifier company does.
- BanMe@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
From what Elon says to shareholders, Tesla is going to pivot to becoming a humanoid robot production company anyway, the cars are just a sideline. They axed two models when they announced that.
Tesla is a
car company
Tesla is abattery company
Tesla is a robot company <---- you are here
How did that happen? When I worked at the Fremont plant, we were only putting together vehicles that had already been sold. Did they swap from lean manufacturing to the normal, wasteful “just keep making shit perpetually” model? 🤔
- SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish5 hours
They are cashing in production tax incentives and cooking the books. GM did the same thing 2008 before it all collapsed.
Elon was hoping everyone would just forget his antics.
- xenomor@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
You got to be a special kind of asshole if you’re buying a Tesla these days.
- 3 hours
Not only that, you sort of have to hate having money.
With the cyber trucks having shit glued on them all over the place the company just seems laughable.
If I’m putting down (potentially) luxury car money I better damned well have a luxury car.
Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It’s insane.
The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.
or Norwegian, First and third biggest selling car there
or Australian
- Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish9 hours
They’re already sitting on them, they should finish the job and shove them right up their asses.
Elon couldn’t pay me to buy a Tesla. I like EVs. It’s not about the technology. It’s entirely about Elon. I’d rather buy Japanese or South Korean, thank you.
- billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
Well let’s not be too hasty here…
I really despise most everything about him but if Elon were to actually pay me and give me a free car I’d very likely take it. I mean I have principles but I’m not an idiot.
I’d rather buy a Chinese one, but mr Biden made that impossible.
mr Biden made that impossible.
Wait, is he still President with a majority in the House of Reps and Senate since 2025?
Thanks, Obama!
- 14th_cylon@lemmy.zipEnglish7 hours
depends on the definition of paying. is he giving you discount, or is he paying more than the car’s worth?
if it is the latter, then i am fine keeping all the fucker’s money and set the free teslas on fire.
- LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyzEnglish8 hours
Which Japanese EV? I’m not aware of any good ones.
Korean ones? Best on the market. If you want the best for a reasonable price, Hyundai or Kia.
Toyota sells a couple EV models in China for the China market not sure where thier overseas models are made…Toyota has the second biggest selling EV in Norway for example and have that model here in Australia, its actually ok, the previous version was comparatively shitty
https://www.toyota.com.au/bz4x-ev
Subaru have 2 models, a JV with Toyota.
- Justifier@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
That one?
Nah I’d even drive a paintless dumpstertruck over that thanks
Volvo, Rivian, Kia, Chevy, Ford, plenty of ev options that aren’t negligently dangerous like Toyota’s EVs or Teslas
- Horsey@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
The bz4x/bz/Solterra is still the worst EV on the road, bar none.
Worst range of all EVs, flip phone quality software center stack, and the same price as a model y. It’s nuts that anyone would buy those pieces of shit.
- 5 hours
toyota has a couple (but I’m not sure if they are available in the US)
The Sieg Heiling Space Karen genius could not have foreseen this. Is that right?
- manxu@piefed.socialEnglish10 hours
Remember when he told his advertisers to fuck off, and then two weeks later sued them because they fucked off? That’s the depth of this man’s genius!!!
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It took awhile for that to get finished, but it was great to see.
Yes, although I was obviously being a bit sarcastic - but not really since there’s so many neo-nazis over here…
At this point i no longer care if they lower the price until they’re free. They will have to sell them as scrap at a loss. I will never, ever, ever buy a Tesla.
At one point I was considering buying a Tesla. Then I didn’t like Musk, but felt I could justify buying a used Tesla, as it wasn’t giving him any money.
Then Nazi salute and DOGE and lol, nope. I won’t even uber a Tesla.
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I’d take a free Tesla. Pull the batteries and drive modules. Scrap the shell, sell the drive modules, use the batteries for home storage.
- 8 hours
Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I’m thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it’s not just “old” ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish5 hours
Used Teslas cost chump change in my country, especially older Model S which is the more luxurious model. Morally, I could justify buying a used one. I still hate the things though. And while I don’t care too much about my image, a nazi sympathiser is not something I want to look like.
I’m considering a Jaguar I-Pace or MB EQC instead. But if I can get a REALLY good deal on a used Tesla, I might consider pulling the trigger just because 2 euros per liter of diesel makes me spend twice what my payment on the Tesla would be and I could charge it at home.
Though I do love my current torsen-based Quattro so I’d ideally want an AWD car meaning the ones that fit the bill are about as much as the I-Pace. Which begs the question of which one is actually nicer to drive. Guess I’ll have to test drive them both.
- 14th_cylon@lemmy.zipEnglish7 hours
there are people in the world who buy new car because their 2 year old one is already too old.
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I cant imagine having a perpetual car payment like that. I paid mine off years ago and its great.
- Simulation6@sopuli.xyzEnglish6 hours
If the price drops enough I would get one. I would hate to give money to musk, but it is not a bad car (based on the 2 people I know who have owned them for years).
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We bought one a fair bit before Musk went full Neo Nazi. It’s a great car, the best car I’ve ever owned. The only repair in nearly 180k km was a known issue covered by warranty. They could be fantastic if the company wasn’t run by a moronic, petulant Neo-Nazi.
- 3 hours
You could buy used not from Tesla if you did decide to buy in the future. Can get a great car and not pad their books.
- 10 hours
I figured something was up when I got a call out of the blue from the Tesla dealership asking if I wanted to upgrade my 2019 to a newer model. Joke’s on them, though. I’m unemployed.
I thought Tesla was going to start building robots, instead of cars.
/somewhat sarcastically
- Mister_Hangman@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
This is my stupid fucking friend who can’t get off Elons nuts at all. It’s fucking sad. He literally bought a model Y the other day despite me telling him Rivian is about to release a competitor because he thinks he can add it to the robo taxi fleet in a year or two. God I love him and am sick of this shit.
- 4 hours
I have one of those
friendsacquittances. Glow in his eyes when he talks about Elons great deeds. He also just bought a Y-model, because Elon was treated unfairly, even though he’s in large debt due to a grand business opportunity that went south. - Horsey@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
To be fair, I’m waiting on the R2 as well, but I’m strapping in for first generation fit and finish issues galore. Rivian hasn’t surpassed Tesla in software or aftermarket flexibility.
Not to mention, we probably won’t be able to take delivery until late this year despite paying for a reservation from this past March.
- Justifier@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
Surpass Tesla in software?
Most of us want less software not more
That’s why everyone is so hyped about Slate. Less of this garbage is a paid feature these days.
- Horsey@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
The slate software is in no way going to be the industry standard. Car manufacturers are all looking to create parasitic software for their cars.
Slate is DOA based solely on how terrible the range will be.
- Justifier@lemmy.worldEnglish1 hour
Slate is a good niche, its range is fine for the purpose its supposed to fill
Imagine a fleet of them for a lawncare business paired with a 30-42" standup electric mower rig
Cost of operations would be dittly squat, could be further buffered with solar and replacememt parts dirt cheap. Roi would be extremely quick and then it’d be pure profits
People are already doing that with used Teslas pulling trailers (yeah its funny to see, but the people doing it have shown their numbers and its pretty nuts)
Whats not fine about the Slate is no awd version. On an EV it’s a minimal endeavor to make that work so there’s really no excuse
Having experienced awd I will never personally own another vehicle without it if I have a choice. Especially a truck. My driving conditions are way too harsh to not have it
- null@lemmy.orgEnglish7 hours
This anecdote provides insight to Tesla’s remaining sales strategy. Like the stock itself, all there appears to be is hype and promise.
