There's been a wave of successful efforts to ban, reject and shut down AI.
  • scytale@piefed.zipEnglish
    3 hours

    I like that depiction they used of artistic tools attached to a gear.

    • xthexder@l.sw0.comEnglish
      2 hours

      Me too. It’s exactly the kind of clean metaphor that an AI generated image would never be able to understand.

  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3 hours

    So I am so ewhat pro AI. But hear me out. I sometimes refer to myself as an automation engineer. I spend a lot of my time automating the set up and use of various software tools. For those who know the term Infrastructure As Code is a part of my job too. And soo many tools have shitty UIs and even shittier apis. The rise of AI is going to add pressure to have better apis because that is what the AI uses. So even if AI falls flat on it’s face in a few years, any improvements in apis is a vig win for me. And since the automation I write is for my coworkers, not external customers, anyone in tech benefits from this.

    Now for me personally, I work ina lot of different languages and DSLs. I rarely spend enough time in any one of them to really memorize the syntax. I pretty much can’t write a working program without some sort of reference. So, I can tell AI exactly what I want it to do, and it can code and test until it runs. Then I can use that as my syntax reference and make it do what it is supposed to do. That ends up being much faster than me having to google various syntaxes to see where I need a semicolon vs a comma, or where I need to use [] instead of {}. So it helps me.

    And I do love using AI to file my jira tickets. Works great for those of us who’s work is interrupt driven. We often file the ticket after we’ve solved the problem.

    • mcv@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3 hours

      Or they’ll make apis shittier because they don’t want AI using it.

      However, Copilot has made it a lot easier to navigate through Azure’s incomprehensible menu structure.

      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3 hours

        Well, grafana is an example. They want their own AI agent that you can pay for. So they still need the apis to be good. But they don’t make it easy to get your AI it own api token. Each user would essentially have to have two accounts. Which they probably charge for too. It’s not impossible to work around, but it’s a barrier. I would expect more of that kind of thing. Any tool that doesn’t have a way for AI to work with it is going to be selected against for a while. So there is pressure for them to be accessible.

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3 hours

      The closest facsimile I have in my work is occasionally running an Excel formula I’ve written through Copilot in order to find a formatting error or to help fix an Access query, but If fundamentally understand what I’m doing, can validate that the produced result is correct, and can fix it if I have to somewhere down the line.

      It’s good you’ve found some simple ways to use it, but in the vast majority of work I do, it would take longer if I used AI because everything produced using an LLM has to be human-validated regardless, so I might as well not skip the important step of learning and understanding it.

      I never use it to ideate and never use it for anything that isn’t eminently simple, like creating a sheet with x number of columns and rows or something like that. I hate the idea of the environmental impact and that helps me avoid it.

      • quips@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2 hours

        And outside coding its like modest productivity improvments is the best we’ve done in the 4 years we’ve had these models.

        I just can’t see it not being a bubble

        • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 hours

          Yeah, it’s nothing particularly special IMHO. The best feature I’ve found in using it is that, for Microsoft products in particular, it can tell me capabilities of certain things I didn’t know previously when I present it with a problem.

          Search engines used to do that before they got enshittified.

    • psx_crab@lemmy.zipEnglish
      9 hours

      And eat the dick billionaire shoving at your face willingly? Because that’s what AI are, people are forced to used it because their boss demand it.

      • username_1@programming.devEnglish
        8 hours

        So maybe you should fight against dick-shoving billionaires, not against useful tools?

        • Dumhuvud@programming.devEnglish
          4 hours

          not against useful tools

          Nobody’s fighting against you guys. Why do sloperators have to take everything personally? Smh my head.

          • username_1@programming.devEnglish
            5 hours

            They save my time tremendously while searching for something in documentation. Especially if I don’t know if it is actually there.

              • lumpenproletariat@quokk.auEnglish
                3 hours

                Didn’t know ctrl-f could parse natural language and not only rely on knowing the correct keyword. When did it gain that functionality?

        • JigglySackles@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4 hours

          I’d that tool didn’t come at the destructive costs involved, AI would be a lot more palatable.

          • username_1@programming.devEnglish
            4 hours

            destructive costs

            YouTube storing shitillions of dickabytes of cat videos “costs” much more while being completely useless. But those are funny cat videos. Hands off of those videos. Yes?

            • JigglySackles@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4 hours

              If that’s what it takes to stop the excessive destruction caused by unregulated data center construction and operation, yes.

            • TwilitSky@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4 hours

              I don’t care what you do but keep your hands off those videos. I need them for things.

        • panda_abyss@lemmy.caEnglish
          7 hours

          If they’re so useful, why are they being forced on everyone, including by making them part of performance reviews?

          If they’re useful people will naturally use them.

          • username_1@programming.devEnglish
            7 hours

            And people do use them. Naturally.

            What about that “forcing” thing you’re talking about? Look around. You’re being forced with everything by corporations. Why would this new cool technology should be an exception? You’re forced to watch sport events, listen to modern music, wear some vogue clothes, kiss your beloved leader’s ass, hate those evil Cubans or Ukrainians (depending on who your owner is).

        • Nick@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7 hours

          “AI Tools” describes both the product and the people who use them.

        • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4 hours

          You’re screaming into the echo chamber, mate. Unless you’re so rabidly anti-AI you believe and spread one of a few comforting, imaginary narratives, you’ll be dog piled.

          I’m staunchly critical of AI, but won’t pretend that it only consists of generative AI, that it still operates as poorly as it did years ago, nor that a disturbing percentage of the population either doesn’t care about or actually supports that shit, so I get my share of insults. Being pro-AI won’t get you much civility so set your expectations low. Unless you’re trolling. Then you’ve nailed it.

    • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      10 hours

      I think is people don’t like it they don’t need to use it. I’m ok with rules stating ai generated content must be labeled though. I wouldn’t even mind a toggle so it could just be turned off.

      But it is tech that is here to stay. It is useful to many people.

      • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4 hours

        I think is people don’t like it they don’t need to use it.

        Tell that to the people living near new data centers who can’t get clean water and are being charged exorbitant rates for electricity. They have no say in the matter.

        This is occuring all over the US, these issues are far from isolated incidents.

      • pet1t@piefed.socialEnglish
        5 hours

        Useful to who? If you need an LLM to write just a basic e-mail/comment/caption you’re maybe … how do I say this nicely? Not that smart …

        If you use an LLM as a search engine, same thing.

        If you use an LLM as a psychologist, same damn thing.

        And the majority of people are using it for those things. It’s just plain stupidity. I’m not saying there’s no use to AI, but right now it’s being used in a terrible way by people that have no use for it at all.

      • LeapSecond@lemmy.zipEnglish
        10 hours

        It’d be fine if that was the case. Right now if you don’t like it you’re still forced to read (and often review) AI generated rumblings, communicate with LLMs instead of humans when contacting support, accept AI-specific terms even you won’t use the AI part of a product, have data centers pollute your city and pay ridiculous amount of money for a stick of ram.

      • username_1@programming.devEnglish
        10 hours

        That would be wonderful if those anti-AI folk would stop using LLMs and switch their attention to something more constructive. But they can’t.

        • magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          9 hours

          1000026004

          Imagine letting an entertainment product write your code for you. Why the fuck are you doing this if you don’t even like the act of programming?

          • username_1@programming.devEnglish
            9 hours

            No idea why people do that. I suppose some people are too dumb to write code and some other people are too dumb to understand what programmers use LLMs for. What dumb people do best? Attentionwhoring, screaming and throwing hysterical tantrums.

            • magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              7 hours

              I get writing boilerplate and unit tests can probably be done by software well enough, at least when supervised.

              Ill be honest, that’s not even my real issue.

              My real issue is that programming, devops, systems administration. All of these things are art forms, every bit of them. From high-level application architecture down to the tiniest details of implementation.

              Like how much of a library you choose to include, what you name your variables, what type of loops you use to iterate through data. How you choose to format and comment your code.

              Giving these choices to the machine is like the painter giving their brush to it.

              Just like images generated by stable diffusion will never be worth their fully-human painted equivalent. So too will LLM-developed programs fail to hold that value.

              For what its worth, this isnt new. I’ve held contempt for VC-worshipping developers who see programming as a means to an end far longer than LLMs have been used for serious work.

        • Damarus@feddit.orgEnglish
          10 hours

          The thing is people using this stuff are doing harm to the planet and society. So leaving them alone is not going to happen.