Came across it while looking into Sendspin. Has anyone set it up? How is it? Use it? Better than Jellyfin?
E: Thanks everyone for the replies, it was informative!
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- Godnroc@lemmy.worldEnglish20 hours
I use it daily, but as a replacement for smart device integrations. For example, my alarm plays music while the lights come on to prevent me from going back to sleep. I used to do that with Google Home, now I do it with Music Assistant.
21 hoursI have a setup at home. It joins my Jellyfin, Qobuz, soma.fm, and a few more sources and feeds my home and mobile music(etc) needs.
I honestly wouldn’t want to miss it.
Home Assistant uses it for wake-up music in the morning, to make sure the music follows me around the flat by joining speakers or transferring the queue using presence sensors, and probably a few more things.
Ah, yes, Sonos haven’t implemented Qobuz Connect yet, so the Qobuz app doesn’t know how to deal with Sonos speakers, but with Music Assistant that doesn’t matter in the slightest. MA knows how to talk to my speakers and how to talk to Qobuz.
Essentially, MA is to Audio what Homeassistant is to home automation.
Definitely loving it.
I also use Jellyfin, SomaFM and Qobuz. 🤔 It integrates them you say. 🤔🤔🤔
- gabmus@retrolemmy.comEnglish1 day
They accomplish different things. Anyway, in my experience music assistant is still a bit underbaked. But I’d love to hear what other people have to say!
- gdog05@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
Underbaked sounds about right. But it’s powerful as hell. I love having music everywhere all at once. I mostly use it with Navidrome and it works a treat. But using YouTube music is a little touch and go.
I just use it as a unified fronted to play music on my office speakers. I have Jellyfin, Tidal and Bandcamp connected as providers.
In my experience the “play on this device” option isn’t very reliable, so I’d recommend keeping a separate Jellyfin if you need music on the go with your phone.
- m4ylame0wecm@lemmy.zipEnglish23 hours
Worked OK enough for me on desktop browsers, but I’d second the “use something else” for phone playback. My MA is also sourcing from Jellyfin, so I use Finamp for on the go tunage using local caching/offline mode.
- 1 day
Did you run into any issues while connecting jellyfin? For me it does see the music stored on jellyfin, but when trying to start it it gives an error.
- m4ylame0wecm@lemmy.zipEnglish23 hours
A recent JF update broke MA-JF for me, I believe the workaround was to re-enable some legacy auth. I didn’t do that as I updated JF because of a recent security thing, and wasn’t willing to downgrade auth at the time (vuln details weren’t published at the time).
For now it’s pulling from Navidrome (same media folder/share as JF).
- Autonomous@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
Lacking in intuitive interface and pretty buggy at times, I suspect most that use it enjoy the flexibility it introduces to work with multiple data sources, multiple playback devices, and DSP features to normalize audio.
- m4ylame0wecm@lemmy.zipEnglish23 hours
Wrks pretty nicely for me, installed on my HAOS VM via HACS. Initially, was to power multiple devices in the home while having Spotify connect (Volumio got ruled out for some other reason.) Sonos, PiCorePlayer, and some AndroidTV based things as players.
Works well enough, though the browsing could be better / faster. I prefer the JF UI for music.
- Saucepain@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
I use it and find it really good. I have it running in a Docker container on my media server rather than a HomeAssistant add-on.
The interface is a bit clunky, but that’s my only real complaint. There are some third party apps available that ease the pain of this a bit - I use Ensemble on Android.
The main strength is the ease with which you can add multiple different sources and have them work side by side. I do get some duplication, but that’s usually because the Spotify version of an album is the deluxe or something along those lines.
HomeAssistant integration is great. You can easily automate playing tracks/albums/playlists - I have a wireless button under the kitchen table that triggers my choice of playlist on a double press and my wife’s on a single press.
Sendspin is fantastic - it’s practically effortless to have multiple players with different protocols playing in sync. Really looking forward to this protocol developing more, since the unfinished version is so good!
Do you know what the resource usage is like? I’m wondering whether to do docker on my big machine or an add-on on my Home Assistant Yellow (Pi 4).
- JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.netEnglish1 day
It is a handy tool.
The coolest feature is the Spotify Connect which turns your MA speaker into a Spotify Connect satellite to play to directly from the app. (I know, Spotify is terrible, but it is an admittedly Connect is a very very good feature in both Spotify and MA). Sadly, it is very buggy when testing. For me it worked well for a while, but now it bungles Spotify encoding and plays very very slow and distorted
It plays my home library very well through my ESP32S3 DAC to my old 90s Yamaha AV receiver and amp. (Side effect of also being able to control the sound system via HomeAssistant and IR and use voice assistant on a MEMS mic.
Like others have said, the interface is very clunky and bad for browsing your library of local music, but oh well. I also wish it had a radio function for your local music.
- neo2478@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 hours
Qobuz is a much better company that compensates artists fairly, and the music assistant integration work is great!
- moufle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 hours
About the artist compensation: do you you know if Qobuz is better than Deezer?
- 3 hours
@moufle from my research, yes, significantly. I don’t remember the numbers, but Qobuz was an outlier.
Bonus - you can buy the music you like to keep from Qobuz and download it in honest-to-god files.
- JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.netEnglish1 day
Oh for sure! I am just meaning specifically the Spotify Connect casting in general.
Then you don’t have to use Music Assistant’s really clunky and weird interface and anyone that comes to your house can just put on music from their own account and own app direct through WiFi without worrying about Bluetooth connection and signal.
I just looked and apparently Qobuz has a Connect feature that launched last year!
I hope Music Assistant integrates that! Apparently digital hi-fi systems are also still busy integrating the functionality, including Sonos/IKEA. It would help a ton of people switch to quobuz
- neo2478@sh.itjust.worksEnglish24 hours
It’s all already there. am already using Qobuz with music assistant and a sonos picture frame from IKEA (both through music assistant and the sonos app)
- JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.netEnglish19 hours
Not according to the documentation.
Qobuz connect is something else that only got released 1 year ago. Spotify Connect even is only still in alpha on Music Assistant and that has been around for many years.
You can already for years simply find library items from qobuz in the music assistant UI, but playing music to an external Music Assistant provider directly from the Qobuz app on a different device has yet to be implemented.
Unless the documentation and github issues are all wrong. If you are able to just do that by default, you probably want to give some information as to how on the github feature request.
- neo2478@sh.itjust.worksEnglish7 hours
Ah, I now understand. I was misunderstanding you before.
I am using Qobuz connect and playing music from within Music Assistant. I indeed cannot play from the Qobuz app to music assistant yet.
I didn’t even know it was a possibility being worked on.
- 22 hours
@avidamoeba I kind of use it. The interface isn’t as intuitive as Tidal - which isn’t great to begin with. Wiim, which is another step down, is also better. It’s nice that you can play the same music across multiple systems, but since it cannot sync the music across players it’s not quite good enough for any use case I have had.
I do use it for automating my kid’s alarm in the morning on her Sonos speaker. Which also has an alarmingly high failure rate, but that’s because the speaker turns off and needs a prod to wake up again.
- ropatrick@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
For me the win is being able to delete my Google speakers for voice control. Paired with Home Assistant Voice device it can pretty much replace Google. I’ll just use the Google speakers via bluetooth as music players.
UI is a bit clunky as mentioned, but I’m happy to live with that for now due to ^^^.
I’ll just use the Google speakers via bluetooth as music players.
Is that actually possible? I gifted mine to others after I got a couple of Home Assistant Voice spks. I’m planning to use the aux of the HA Voice to play through larger speakers like JBL Charge.
- ropatrick@lemmy.worldEnglish21 hours
Yep. I’m doing it currently with my work laptop. I have two G speakers set up as a stereo pair and connected to laptop by BT.
- realitista@lemmus.orgEnglish1 day
Wish it supported OwnTone which is the only easy way to port my iTunes library to something else.
- Uriel_Copy@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
I have an IKEA BILRESA which is basically an iPod click wheel in a little portable Zigbee/thread device. I really wanted to have this control my music, and it will be through Music Assistant and Home Assistant that I achieve this.
I’m still waiting on the Alexa devices integration improving, or picking up some real speakers, both of which are in the works. Then I will hook that up with a local LLM voice assistant in every room (including the bathroom; shower music!)
Achieving this without Music Assistant would be a pain. If things all go right I won’t really use the clunky interface much anyway
Are you planning to use Alexa speakers with their stock firmware for you LLM voice assistant?
- Uriel_Copy@lemmy.worldEnglish20 hours
First I’ll use them for music assistant. If I end up making some voice satellites, I’ll have to see what the audio quality is like before ditching the Alexa speakers.
I don’t believe anybody has found a way to use non-stock firmware. I’d love to jailbreak them if I could
I see. I ditched my Google Home speakers by replacing them with Home Assistant Voice speakers. They’re not good for music but the mics and speaker are pretty good for voice. Pretty easy to setup fully-offline agent with a local LLM with those.
I started looking into it for radio - unifying paid SiriusXM, free TuneIn, and free Shoutcast/Icecast powered radio stations, in a single system.
My idea was to show a list of our favourite radio stations on a dashboard tablet, with buttons to play them on particular media players (Google speakers, etc)
I set it up and started making a Home Assistant dashboard that shows the list. It took a while to figure out how to properly display the list of all the stations, but I ended up figuring it out using the flex table card component: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/dynamic-buttons-based-on-template-sensor/917207
I didn’t end up finishing the project though, and put it on hold while working on other things. I’ll revisit it one day.
It can also pull from Plex, but I haven’t tried that. At the moment, I usually cast from Plexamp to my speakers when I want to play something.
