- ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish21 minutes
LLMs cannot do anything importing a library or a google search couldn’t already do better.
- Greyghoster@aussie.zoneEnglish2 hours
Where have we seen that before? The computerisation of companies and governments in the 90s? As I recall the most junior entry level jobs went causing massive skill development problems and shortages of trained staff to fill vacancies that went on for years.
- DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish12 hours
So I’ve been utilizing the big LLMs to help increase my productivity at work. And I have to say, yes, it absolutely makes me more productive.
However, I can only be more productive because I already have 25 years of experience in my field and I am already a senior and I can guide the “AI” to what I really need help with and I can see the mistakes it makes.
There is absolutely no way someone who hasn’t already been doing this job for 25 years would be able to just sit down with an AI assistant and replace me.
And my company has not hired any associate level employees who could replace me. All my peers are 5-7 years away from retirement. I’m 11 years away from retirement.
- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish2 hours
The problem is that it doesn’t matter how useful and irreplaceable you know you are, if a company decides it’s replacing you with AI, they’ll do it anyway. They may decide later that they were wrong, and you were right, but it doesn’t matter, you’re still unemployed.
Companies shoot themselves in the foot all the time. You can’t count on them to do the smart thing, even if it’s obvious. The second some C-Level gets these the idea that they can save money by firing a bunch of people, it’s going to happen, no matter how ill-advised.
- 5in1K@lemmy.zipEnglish1 hour
I just started messing with making a server, I’ve never done it before, never really wrote code before except an Arduino blinking light. I don’t think I would have gotten the server done, at least as well or as quickly without an llm. That said, even I notice it fucking up a lot and losing the plot.
I have found it really useful in identifying useful stuff in scrap piles, one of my hobbies is scrounging so that’s been good.
2 hoursYeah LLM is a useful idiot that somehow read all the programming books. It can spit out a coherent sentence yet it doesn’t understand it. Comprehension is left to the user. It’s an advanced rubber duck
- HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
I have similar experience. LLM is about as good as Google was before enshittification. All it does it replaces 10 minutes of me searching for the correct piece of documentation with 2~3 minutes of using LLM to grab the same information.
Intern could find it for me in an hour, two if he used LLM since AI works much better with jargon.
- Patrikvo@lemmy.zipEnglish6 hours
All a LLM gives you is three virtual interns in an expert’s trenchcoat.
- tinfoilhat@lemmy.mlEnglish14 hours
Short term gains with no regards for the future. It’s the capitalist way.
And they’ll just hire more H-1B visa employees for more and more smaller roles, and they have them in an even tighter place than they could American workers. It’s not like they’re blind to the issue. It’s the plan.
- sobchak@programming.devEnglish15 hours
I think offshoring/nearshoring is booming right now. Tons of “Global Capability Centers” being built. It’s even cheaper than H-1B.
- FauxLiving@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
The onus is on us, we senior tech workers, to gouge the absolute shit out of future companies to show them the error of their ways.
- PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 day
And when they start hiring juniors again, insist on onboarding those motherfuckers like you’re teaching a CS degree. The young’ns deserve to learn, this is some bullshit.
- pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish12 hours
And when they start hiring juniors again, insist on onboarding those motherfuckers like you’re teaching a CS degree
I love this. And I will.
- FauxLiving@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
Only semi-related but check for local computer clubs/maker spaces in your area. Ours does everything from tutoring/group learning to monthly LAN parties. Learning CAD from Youtube is okay, learning CAD while being able to ask questions of a professional engineer is even better!
I’ve been helping people move to/learn Linux (we have a bunch of donated Windows 10 desktop hardware to play with), it’s pretty rewarding to teach people who actually want to learn (training new hires who are clearly bored is not so much…) and we usually end up giving them the machine that they’re learning on if they need it.
Just another way to pass it on and get some offline nerd socialization, if you’re into that kind of thing.
my main side project is software to create libraries of things and federate them - and part of that is I’m setting up a library here in Barcelona this year.
And part of what we’ll hope to be offering is basically free tech education along those lines. Eventually I’d love to see us training people to develop, providing our own hosted LLM, and making software for the community all without the need to interact with the shitty capitalist profiteering world.
- PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish1 day
This is delicious in every way, I really love it. Kudos!!
Here’s my tidbit - if you’re in the US and in a not-tiny or remote part of it, good chance you can find people offloading old Dell business-class laptops, workstations, all the way up to v. spendy server machines, depending directly on number of school systems, corporate office spaces (and etc), and industrial or info-tech type businesses nearby. Respectively, and with some overlap and such 😅
Beyond the obvious benefits for sustainability (reuse!) and affordability - business-class Dell have always been engineered quite well (expensively, and uhhh… opinionatedly, lol).
Arguably even more useful, all those well-engineered things were made in huge volume. You will ~always be able to find cheap parts. And, if buying a
lot, by having a handful of the ~same thing (all destined for a dumpster), you already get redundancy, and…ahem…some very useful teachable moments lol.It feels like a cheat code. Place populated enough and there will def be businesses whose main thing is snapping these up, cleaning up and etc and reselling. But I’m in a not-tiny place and I still see some deals. OTOH, all of that got a lot worse once hardware prices jumped the shark, so, maybe this tip is already outdated.
- dasrael@lemmy.zipEnglish1 day
Warning a company is like talking to a wall. It doesn’t care about tomorrow, hell, it exists on exploitation of tomorrow for today. If you expect the free market or business to save you, youre fucked.
- Typhoon@lemmy.caEnglish2 days
They don’t care. They only care about short term profits. Capitalism only cares about immediate profits and doesn’t plan for the long term. The management at the top know they won’t be there when the system fails. They’ll get their massive paycheques and cash out their stock long before it crashes.
- ferrule@sh.itjust.worksEnglish21 hours
I worked in the energy industry for over a decade and a half and I was amazed at how every CEO we had (because they rotated out every couple of years) seemed to only pick the actions that made stort term money while royally screwing over the next CEO’s tenure. And the crazy part was everyone knew this was happening. Some CEOs even stated the quiet part out loud.
- chuckleslord@lemmy.worldEnglish2 days
They can’t care. If they don’t relentlessly pursue profit quarter after quarter, they’ll be consumed by companies who will. There is no planning for the future, only profits.
- BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.caEnglish2 days
Also the system selects for mental illness so a lot of the worst offenders here literally can’t feel empathy.
- Live Your Lives@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
Wasn’t Amazon’s whole thing for a while that they weren’t going to relentlessly pursue quarterly profits? So they can care, they just often don’t.
- Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish14 hours
Walmart used to, probably still does, use other stores as welfare generators for newer stores. The reason was/is because that means the new store can undercut all local competition long enough to drive them out of business and the jack the prices afterwards. Corporations focused so heavily on lying, cheating, and stealing do not do anything out of the good ess of their hearts.
- bridgeburner@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
Funny thing, Walmart tried to do exactly that when they were trying to get a foothold in germany, but failed massively, lol.
Companies can bleed ridiculous amounts of money if it means that they can push competition out of the market. Couple less profitable, or even negative, quarters are fine, if they’re expecting good enough return for that investment. So, they’re still firmly on track with maximum profit hunting, sometimes it just takes some money to make even more money.
- unmagical@lemmy.mlEnglish2 days
That took an expert?
If you don’t train juniors you don’t get seniors to fix shit or to build you more AI.
- Croquette@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 days
Every C-Suite think they will be able to snatch senior devs that other companies will train.
- Strider@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
No, they think by then there will be AGI and pick up the slack.
Narrator: there won’t / wasn’t.
- atomicbocks@sh.itjust.worksEnglish2 days
This is already the case at companies like Valve and Netflix. They “don’t hire junior devs”…
I applied for a job at Valve a couple of years ago and was told that my over decade of development experience didn’t make me senior enough.
- yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish2 days
Valve has the sweetest of all business models: do almost nothing, make tons of money. They have so few employees.
- 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish2 hours
Well, isn’t Valve a company with pretty much no hierarchy where everyone is mostly equal, bar Gabe?
I mean, due to their structure, I can see an excuse for them.
- Tollana1234567@lemmy.todayEnglish1 day
they save money by laying all the work on the low amount of employees they have rather than hiring more people, its probably skeleton crewed. thats probably why they make so money there, dont want to spread around.
- Mirror Giraffe@piefed.socialEnglish2 days
This has been the case since way before the LLM boom but it has definitely moved into a higher gear.
They really believe that seniors will move to their slop based company after all the shit they dug themselves into. The heads of these ceos must be full of unicorn shit and rainbows.
- HazardousBanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish2 days
The bourgeoisie no longer holds any care whatsoever for sustainability.
Quire seriously, their only goal is to obtain enough wealth and power that they won’t feel the effects of losing any of it until they die. That’s their literal goal. All hell is allowed to break loose, but only after they die.
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish2 days
Let the other companies be the suckers that take a loss on training juniors into seniors
You know, those other companies that also use AI instead of hiring juniors.
Gen Z? This bullshit has been ongoing since the early 00’s. Every fucking company wants applicants with 5+ years experience straight out of the gate, with training provided by anyone else but them, and to pay the new hire as if they rolled out of their High School grad through the front door. Look to Gen Y if you want to see what’s going to happen again (more self-service kiosks and useless chatbots). Many of the kids training for these jobs are going to completely abandon their chosen career track in favour of work that’s responsive to their needs - things like actually responding to applications and paying their fucking rent/mortgage. I’m finding to people in their early 20’s who’re already sick of this shit, without a clear understanding of what’s happened to the labour market.
