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- aesthelete@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
This thing popped up on my Android Auto the other day in the middle of a drive and I cursed at it because I was trying to get directions and then it kept responding “I don’t respond to hostile language”. Fucking annoying.
- GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
fuck you, you piece of shit!
I don’t respond to hostile language
you just fucking responded you piece of shit!
you’re right, I did respond, I’m sorry.
- GenosseFlosse@feddit.orgEnglish9 hours
"I need to grab lunch, find some highly rated sit-down restaurants along the way. I’m not in a rush, oh, and I’d like to eat outside,” Google offers as an example, stating that it will pull in reams of data, including reviews, from Google Maps to help make a decision.
Yeah that’s not how I use my car…
- squaresinger@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
Yeah, who gets into the car not knowing what the target is?
What I’d like to have is plain old Google Assistant, with its deterministic nature, plus a keyword that enables Gemini for more advanced stuff should I need it.
Especially looking up info while listening to a podcast or something like that.
- jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish8 minutes
Yes, the non-determinism is crazy.
I have like one thing I use voice for usually. “Call <name>”. With Google Assistant, it reliably called that specific person.
Now that my phone decided to gemini, it will sometimes make a call, and sometimes it says something like “I have found one contact with that name in your contacts, their phone number is 1-555-555-5555” Sometimes with some extra language clearly intended to be stuffed back into context to guide some next step that isn’t coming, don’t remember but something along the lines of “Contact match added to context to enable dialing the phone now” or something.
I’m perfectly fine with a different wake word or chaining it to google assistant, “Hey google, ask gemini …” would be fine.
And yes, it might be vaguely useful for doing a maps search in the car, as that is a pain. A vaguely decent answer I can confirm is nice for things like a road trip stop for food or some small thing.
- Zwuzelmaus@feddit.orgEnglish8 hours
Yeah that’s not how I use my car…
That’s how to use your wife.
/s
7 hoursI’ll be buying and fixing pre 2015 cars till I learn to make my own. Hopefully I can also learn how to do electric conversions.
- SunshineJogger@feddit.orgEnglish6 hours
I sure hope some good quality manufacturers jump in and fill the consumer need for dumb tech cars and everything else that can be “smart”
These days any AI or Smart feature just makes any product far less interesting to me
- GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
you missed the part where this will be mandated by the USDOT for “safety”.
Despite attempts to reduce driver distraction by enabling select voice commands to activate things like the air conditioning or change a radio station,
You know what worked great and didn’t distract? Haptic buttons and knobs. I don’t know what I can buy when my current car dies. I don’t want all this shit again.
- 13igTyme@piefed.socialEnglish4 hours
Just get stuff replaced. I’d rather get a new engine, transmission, chassis, and all parts replaced one by one then get a car with bullshit installed.
My car has voice commands but it can’t even do simple tasks like turning on the headlights or wipers, and requires an active internet connection to do anything at all, so yeah, its fuckin useless.
Meanwhile my phone can dictate entire paragraphs with no internet connection at all.
- 11 hours
Of all the voice LLMs Gemini is the worst. You’ll ask a factual question, “How many Grammys has U2 won?” It will give an answer based off its training then ask, “Would you also like to know about blah blah blah.”
No. I would not. Stop asking follow-up questions. I simply was curious about this one thing while listening to the radio.
The fact people fall in love with or depend on these auto complete bots is crazy. Not to mention, they’re wrong as often as they’re right.
- CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish24 minutes
I mean some people are already essentially married to their car so this doesn‘t seem too far fachet. We are silly monkeys.
- zurohki@aussie.zoneEnglish7 hours
I watched someone try to use Gemini through Android Auto to navigate somewhere a few days ago. It was kind of amazing.
He told it to navigate to a place, and it found a match on a different continent, refused to navigate to it and then rambled about two other irrelevant places it wanted him to go to instead for a while before it finally shut up and he could try again. It didn’t work the second time either.
Ye olde Google Assistant, when told “navigate to <place name>”, will open maps and search for <place name>.
I am a person. You are an object. Do as you’re fucking told, I’m not interested in listening to you trying to fake having an opinion.
- thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish8 hours
A lot of these LLMs heap praise on the user - some more blatantly than others - whether it’s warranted or not.
Those most susceptible tend to be the ones who don’t regularly receive that recognition in their day-to-day lives, so they become infatuated with this “AI” that treats them nicer than they’re accustomed to.
- MonkderVierte@lemmy.zipEnglish4 hours
A certain portion of “dumb” is neccessary to fall for this automated crap.
Hey Google, how about you fucking fix voice so that “navigate to Dutch Bros” works for both Android Auto and just Android instead of randomly trying to open the Dutch Bros app?
Oh and maybe look at your voice to text quality and actually navigating to places correctly.
- SW42@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
I always loved the cars, but I’m never buying one because of the whole intrusive Android integration. Thank god I don’t really use my car that much anymore as public transportation is amazing here.
Goddamn, I am so tired of modern convenience. My god we have made shit complicated in the name of simplicity.
- Darnton@piefed.zipEnglish5 hours
It’s not even convenience, it is more distracting and useless bloat, and in a car of all places. They just got this product they invested billions in, so they are desperate to look for “solutions” to problems that doesn’t exist with it.
Oh, I know, ai was trying to point out the insanity in a few words as possible. All the solutions and conveniences we are being sold are bullshit. They are sold as helpful but just make you hate the world.
I had an Apple Watch, the simplicity of not having to take out my phone was the draw, I could see my notifications quickly and easily. All it did though was create more distraction, more digital cruft to wade through and dismiss. I get more value out of the rubber band that I have on my wrist right now than I did the Apple Watch.
Nah, wasn’t “we” , it was “them” who sold us on a promise, but was really a leash, or muzzle. The “them” is the oligarchs, the billionaires, the epstein class…
I’m m an Infrastructure architect and engineer, this is the same problem in enterprise. Cloud, SaaS, proprietary vendors, they all want to lock you. Time and place for all of it, but you’ve gotta know what you are getting yourself into.
What chance does the average, non-30 year veteran of industry have? It’s bad out there.
- tidderuuf@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
These cars will be cheaper just like SmartTVs because the manufacturers know they can make more money off of saps who buy them loaded up with shitware.
- halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish11 hours
Several vehicle infotainment systems literally run Android. Android Automotive is an entire branch dedicated to being an entire vehicle infotainment system… separate from Android Auto on your phone.
- 9 hours
My car has Android automotive. If you’re driving 8 hours a day, it’s better than what you have in your Android or Apple phone. Everything’s right there and it integrates very nicely with the car. However, like most people, you’re only driving for a little bit to work and then your car just sits there. It’s not worth it. Your phone already has everything you want on it and you just want your phone to connect and do things. I hate that in my car if I say hey Google my car jumps in sorry you need a subscription- my phone already has my subscription I don’t want a second one. If I remember I can turn on the Wi-Fi on my hotspot on my phone, but why bother? I don’t even want my car to respond here. I just want my phone which is right there and already can respond and do everything. Part of this is another well deserved rant against GM for not putting Android Auto on their cars. That’s something that other manufacturers do and I suppose in that case it actually would work well. I don’t know.
- halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish9 hours
Oh the things I could rant on about Android Automotive, and about legacy automakers integrating “smart” things poorly.
Part of this is another well deserved rant against GM for not putting Android Auto on their cars. That’s something that other manufacturers do and I suppose in that case it actually would work well. I don’t know.
If you want to be even more unreasonably angered about this… I currently drive a Honda Prologue, which uses GM’s Ultima EV platform. The Play Store even shows the car “device” as a “GM Aegean”. It supports Android Auto. Even puts it in the little app window as if the system wasn’t already running Android Automotive. Regular Android Auto just like on any other vehicle… inside Android Automotive. They could do it, they chose not to.
- Botzo@lemmy.worldEnglish9 hours
For sure (our Volvo is 1 year too old to have the android automotive system and … It would be better). The Amazon effort that powers the Alexa + Ford sync business isn’t quite at that depth: it’s an API with always online “AI learning” stuff OEMs can integrate.
- Teppa@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
This is just like Android, it was rough around the edges, all new tech is. Then its flawless and its quality becomes normalized as everyone forgets how it started.
