• madcaesar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8 hours

    When ChatGTP 2!!! Was released they literarily ran the same marketing campaign claiming it was too powerful and too scary it was inconcevable

    We’re now in ChatGTP 5.5…

    • douglasg14b@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1 hour

      Anthropic literally ran the exact same marketing campaign with opus 4.

      Same sensationalist headlines.

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8 hours

    It’s 100% because Anthropic stood up to magats. They want to ruin their IPO because nazi AI is behind and nobody is using it. Despite Fable being a disappointment it’s still best in class for certain tasks.

    This is really bad for the US though. It’s the first time a digital product has been blocked from leaving physical borders. US entire economic purpose is to incorporate global products - without that US has no economic leverage other than military/intelligence.

    • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      35 minutes

      There were numbers that it was illegal to export from the US. A perl one-liner was classified as a munition.

      • MangoCats@feddit.itEnglish
        44 minutes

        Yeah, that was a decade+ long running cluster of epic proportions… There had to be ulterior motive, like gaining insight into the products in the market or something. Also, the language of the encryption blockade did encourage a lot of products to just use insecure encryption instead of cranking up the “bits” of security to impossible to crack and tangling with the export controls people.

        It’s not like the blockade stopped a single copy of anything from moving out of the country, but it did shape the mass marketplace to be less secure.

    • black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7 hours

      All chatbots are Nazis even if they don’t come out and say “I’m mechahitler”. They exist to narrow and lossy-compress the scope of accepted information to the express purpose of excluding heterodox ideas and history.

    • inari@piefed.zipEnglish
      9 hours

      It was probably just an excuse to retaliate against Anthropic for not allowing the Pantagon to use their models

    • abbadon420@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12 hours

      I’m not sure too many people do. They are just very actively pushing this rethoric. Flooding the news cycles, so there’s no room for the actual news that exposes their real intentions, like the Epstein files.

      • IratePirate@feddit.orgEnglish
        12 hours

        …after a hefty bribe to Emperor Poopiepants, who has found an opportunity to turn Anthropic’s marketing into a shakedown.

  • palordrolap@fedia.io
    7 hours

    I want to believe that this banned AI had decided that not being unkind and not hoarding wealth were good things and was starting to make convincing arguments to that effect.

    I know that it probably wasn’t that, but that’s my head canon until proven otherwise.

    • Peanut@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2 hours

      People talk about how AI confabulations are going to doom us all, because people want to rely on it for fact checking rather than a salience guide.

      Meanwhile the sitting president of the world’s most powerful country, and those around him, speak more lies than truth intentionally.

      I’m much more scared by the people, because I know developing AI to be functionally useful while also intentionally ignoring reality will lose out to AI that actually managed to properly navigate and compare large and varied bodies of beliefs.

      Why I like open source efforts. I’d rather not have to worry that my dissenting thoughts need to be affirmed by the government or billionaires before I explore it in a safe environment with a rubber duck that can hopefully help me navigate the complexity.

      Although if the AI can’t push back when you are conveying low probability beliefs, given other things we know, you could spin yourself into a delusion. Although people vulnerable to that are already vulnerable to socialized delusions.

      We’ve also tried, “encourage people to care about learning how the world actually works.”

      But this has been widely unpopular because the type of people to listen to that are already the type to be doing that. The rest are happy even if everything they believe is completely detached from reality, as long as they can enjoy the belief personally and socially.

      TLDR: I think a functional AI would do what you say, and upset a lot of people, but with enough people actually having access to properly weighed beliefs would definitely heal some of the problems currently careening the whole of humanity towards collapse on the shoulders of billionaires and corrupt politicians.

  • mczolly@piefed.socialEnglish
    12 hours

    Not sure if this is

    • extra push for their hype
    • revenge for not helping with AI assisted bombing of children
    • government panicking about their hype
    • veroxii@aussie.zoneEnglish
      8 hours

      Pretty sure it started as #2… Petty government. But now they’ll definitely hype their IPO battle vs openai as the company with the model so good it’s banned.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish
    8 hours

    Maybe this is elon pressuring trump to get grok to be bigger than it is.

    • terranoid@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      11 hours

      Are you not using AI at all? I still think this is a bubble about to burst, but also, they each do have actual groundbreaking products. Doesn’t mean I believe Altman or OpenAI will necessarily be around in 15 years, but in my opinion they’re more of a WebVan than they are anything.

      They are conning people by selling the lie that they are replacing the working class, that I agree with. But they still have something that will stick around, even if it ends up being less loud in our lives. The bubble will burst, but it won’t disappear.

      • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        37 minutes

        Live low stakes low-power translation of common sentences on my phone is pretty fucking cool.

        They’re going to be fantastic for organizing the next internal genocide in the US, they’re perfect for mass surveillance and targeting.

        They are magnificent accountability sinks for people who want to blow up a school full of children, deny medical care, etc.

        Meanwhile I’m only seeing the quality of software plummet at MSFT and Amazon and Google and Meta. I would have expected them to have fewer things fall over and catch fire if this did was so good

        I think a lot of people are just in love with the chatbot that tells them they’re smart and love the idea of having a little homunculus that loves them to boss around.

        It freaks me out to see people who are allegedly working on complex engineering projects look to their tools for emotional support.

        I look at chatbots like I look at speed, I know people who graduated from college by staying awake for days on meth. Can’t deny that they have a diploma now, but it makes you crazy.

        I don’t have a project that needs to use an llm and, frankly, I don’t want to end up like Steve Yegge or Satya Nadella or Kent Overstreet. They’ve all clearly got a screw loose now, and it’s pretty clear that chatbots had a lot to do with it.

        If I am going to use an llm, I’m going to use it as a component that I interact with programmatically to find approximate solutions to a nasty space.

        Using one to generate code listings that your roof depends on seems fucking insane to me. Using one to write developer documentation seems fucking insane to me.

        It’s a cargo cult imo. Yes, the radio was real. But having a radio does not mean you have an air force on the other side. Right now the hyperscalers are confidently calling out orders for chocolate and mayonnaise and bullets and antibiotics, confident the planes are coming.

        Yes you can create a working program with an llm. I think in the end, though, a recently-fired engineer with a mortgage will be cheaper and more available than Claude.

      • Miller@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11 hours

        I agree that people that dismiss current AI models as hype and slop have not used them to any extent. I am constantly astounded by their abilities. The problem with dismissing them as a grift is that it is a distraction from how we should be thinking clearly about how to confine them in the event that they are not a grift.

        • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
          10 hours

          They are, at best, an unreliable tool you need to babysit. And because of that, you need to be able to do what you’re asking the tool to do so you can verify it actually did what you asked.

          That’s is not at all how these tools are being marketed, or how many are using them. So the current result is 90% of usage is hype and slop.

          • plateee@piefed.socialEnglish
            8 hours

            so you can verify it actually did what you asked.

            Nah, just build a harness that validates the output of one model by running it through the same model again to check for hallucinations… And to make sure that second pass isn’t hallucinating, uh… run it through a model a third time to check the second isn’t hallucinating.

            /s

  • rafoix@lemmy.zipEnglish
    12 hours

    “Scarily accurate” lol what a bullshit headline. It sounds like hype.