Boy, that makes you wonder.
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- cøre@leminal.spaceEnglish6 hours
It was never about terrorism. The govt saw a chance to leapfrog citizen surveillance by years instead of a steady profession and jumped at it so hard it wasn’t even subtle.
- bagsy@lemmy.worldEnglish21 minutes
People forget Bush was head of the CIA, its all too coincidental that the government ended up with super spy powers on his watch.
- 5 minutes
The patriot act was bipartisan.
- FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
Also fun: your own household furnishings or a toddler with a gun were always a greater danger to you than terrorism, speaking in terms of probabilities.
- FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
I imagine that our euphemistically-named ‘defense contractors’ would be all for it.
6 hoursYou are a horrible parent if you have a gun anywhere near your toddler.
You are a horrible parent if you have a gun anywhere
Could have stopped there.
- 4 minutes
You are a horrible parent if you have a gun
anywhere near your toddler. - FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
You’re not wrong, but guns are a civic religion here in the US. There are lots and lots and lots of guns that are easily accessible by toddlers.
Why are they accessible by toddlers? Have your “civic religions” not heard of a lockbox or even a high shelf?
- FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish2 minutes
No need to ask me questions like this as if I personally support it.
And yes, people here are aware of all the safety measures available. They just care more about convenience or otherwise don’t care at all.
- Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish4 hours
Typical elitist liberal, where am I supposed to get the money for this gun safe? You want me to sell my brand new f-150?
No. Don’t be stupid. Use a credit card. You can have both, while playing for neither.
- harmbugler@piefed.socialEnglish4 hours
Not much point having them if you never take them out of the safe.
- FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
Don’t look at me. I purposely didn’t have kids. Kids are awful.
- Nonconfrontational@lemmy.mlEnglish5 hours
I purposely didn’t have kids, not because they’re awful, but because of unstoppable, irreversible climate change and ecocide.
And awful. The last thing I could ever want is coming home from work exhausted and have to take care of a screaming child who shit itself.
I just come home, feed my chickens, collect eggs, let the dog outside unsupervised while I leave the front door cracked so he can come in when he’s ready and crack a beer.
- webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish4 hours
As a parent i fully support this chance.
One of the reasons i do have kids is because i recognise how rational people who think critically of the current world will easily adopt this logic.
Meaning the future will be largely populated by children of people who are not capable to think critically.
I did always have a child-wish, so maybe it’s part excuse, but it’s a strategic excuse. Either humanity has irreversibly failed or it has not yet meaning i have to try increase the chance on future our survival. (No pressure on them though, they get to decide their future and i might win hope if i am lucy)
- Nonconfrontational@lemmy.mlEnglish4 hours
Nah fuck that, we drive 200 other species to extinction per day. The faster earth shakes off its case of humanity, the better the rest of the natural worlds chances at rebounding in a million years become.
- Lojcs@piefed.socialEnglish7 hours
Don’t I hate it when yout call it “the government”. TIL is just usa_news_2 now.
I know I’m usually posting silly and sarcastic things, but I’m serious with this one. Is that not the original definition of the term “domestic terrorist”? Maybe that’s what they did (redefined their citizens)?
The article is from 2015, so without defending mass surveillance: is there nothing more recent? It’s possible they did that in the 11 years since then after all.
- Natanael@slrpnk.netEnglish8 hours
They haven’t really made newer claims apparently, but on the other hand there’s this, surveillance backdoors are dangerous;
- 7 hours
Even if, its gotta be very rare. We know about so many recent cases of attacks where it turned out they already knew the suspect and were watching them, but never intervened.
Yes, smart devices in your home. Wi-Fi can be used to track your movements. Literally see through walls, your heartbeat and even track your breathing. Have fun with that information. Actually, that might be more of the older capabilities. When I think about it. For example, your internet provider could possibly tap in and view motion in the home. Especially if the home has been mapped out for the newer routers and such. If they actually wanted to, there is always a way.
- rayyy@piefed.socialEnglish6 hours
They can tell when I move the coffee table through the cleaning robot.
I just gave them some more info about a type of surveillance. Maybe you should think again.
the question was, is it still true that no acts is terrorism have been prevented in the last 11 years
- Lojcs@piefed.socialEnglish6 hours
Which is irrelevant to the article you posted. They weren’t asking for your theories about how mass surveillance could be done, they were asking if the claim in the title was still correct.
9 day old account with 50 posts posting a decade old article and replying to a question with an unrelated wall of text is a huge red flag imo
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish5 hours
Why would the government of america need to wiretap your phone when your alexa knows what you dreamt about last night, your web browser knows what you paused to take a look at when scrolling, your phone reports where it is and what it’s doing to every cell tower in range, and there is a network of fully internet connected sattelites overhead at all times capable of resolving images at CENTIMETRE scale.
- Lojcs@piefed.socialEnglish4 hours
What does this have to do with literally anything mentioned so far? Did you reply to the wrong comment?
Honestly you should not be on the internet if you can’t tell the difference between asking if an information is up to date and whatever the fuck you thought I said.
If this is the media literacy level on the fediverse no wonder the world is fucked
- Lojcs@piefed.socialEnglish4 hours
Post:
46 migrating zebras eaten by crocodiles so farComment:
Not that I suport the crocodiles, but this is from the last migration season, are there newer numbers?Reply:
Crocodiles can crush bones like tissue paper. They can remain invisible underwater until they strike.
Who cares if it is a new account, that is actually irrelevant. And a comment about actual surveillance isn’t irrelevant with this!
The gap between the signing of the Patriot Act and when that article was posted is 14 years apart. I highly doubt anything has changed since then.
what is this even supposed to mean?
“the gap between the Battle of Hastings and the completion of the Bayeux Tapestry is likely a few years apart. I highly doubt the government of England has changed since then”
- CameronDev@programming.devEnglish8 hours
Let’s say they did stop an event, they have no reason to actually publicise it. Worst case, they publicise a technique, best case, no one believes them anyway.
Youre asking them to prove a negative.
- tburkhol@slrpnk.netEnglish7 hours
They announce pretty regularly when they’ve entrapped some bunch of hicks into fake bomb plot. Why would they not announce that they’ve interrupted a legit, grassroots plot?
- WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
“Let’s just assume the governments and agencies that allowed the global elite to rape thousands of children on private islands, for decades, are actually “the goodies” who defend ethics and morality, instead of the criminally corrupt psychopaths their actions have repeatedly indicated for the last ~80 years; supporting genocide, committing war crimes, overthrowing democratically elected governments, arming terrorists and dictators, etc, etc.”
It’s either that, or western “intelligence” agencies are all so horrifically incompetent — mass surveillance is such an abject failure — that they missed the elite raping thousands of children on an island for decades… either way, your tax dollars were used to protect and enable child rape… Call me old fashioned, but I thought the entire purpose of a democratic law enforcement and “intelligence” was to oppose child rape, regardless of how valuable the kompromat might be.
Come to think of it, I don’t think there is any combination of words you could assemble that would make me believe everyone complicit doesn’t deserve to spend the rest of their rotten, putrid, worthless lives incarcerated.
- CameronDev@programming.devEnglish4 hours
Because even if they did, people would write it off as “entrapped some bunch of hicks”?
- Klox@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
They would 100% charge people with criminal conspiracy to commit terrorism if they had the evidence. There are plenty of those charges too, just from actual police. They fucking just charged antifa protestors with it. Our government is just fucking stupid, ugh.
- CameronDev@programming.devEnglish4 hours
Parallel construction means they don’t need to use the original evidence. Your administration is stupid, but not everyone doing the work is.
To be clear, I’m not pro-dragnet-survelliance, it has massive downsides, I’m just pointing out that any upside (if it exists at all) is entirely hidden from everyone else.
- 7 hours
And, and–actual terrorists who beat cops to death and spread human feces over the Capitol building did at most four years and got pardoned.
They didn’t, there is no say. Why would they say a technique?? They could just say they actually stopped somebody without saying how, buuuuuuut they didn’t stop anybody anyway.
- CameronDev@programming.devEnglish7 hours
So, they say “We stopped this event, can’t say how”, and you’d just believe that?
Lots of people buy into much more unrealistic propaganda about what happens in this country, every single day 😅
If it was a top secret way, yea. They are tight lipped. Remember, they just said they threw Bin Laden’s body in the ocean and that was that.
Oh yea, UFO stuff and such. That is a good point. Well, now it is all wacky isn’t it…
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish5 hours
That ufo shit is smoke and mirrors to disguise their concentration camps (ICE rape camps where even the kids get pregnant) and arming/ funding of genocides worldwide, oh and the Iran invasion they launched to distract from the JE files they’re all in. Its really bad out there.
- DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
No but now you can sociopath in the government. Not everybody gets to sociopath in the government. Edit: National Sociopath Agency
- 7 hours
No it doesn’t. It’s a government program that’s designed to funnel money and that’s all.
- 7 hours
Section 702 (which is a BFD and allows everything the government report this article is based on says is an overreach) was NOT renewed June 12
It was not renewed because Congress knows Trump will turn it on us (probably because they know he is using it against them already)
If we are being honest with ourselves it was simplely a act of defiance by congress. The actual authorization provided by 702 doesn’t expire until much later anyway.
It will be likely reintroduced because “security”
- 4 hours
It is members of congress acquiring actual fear for their personal safety
Yes it is defiance of a sort, but not the kind that readily comes to mind when someone uses that word
- Zwuzelmaus@feddit.orgEnglish7 hours
Year after year, they have bought data centers, like normal companies bought PCs. And no such backlash as with AI right now.
