- tias@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish13 days
If you’re going to measure demand in a way that makes sense for a demand vs supply formula, you must do it in a way that’s independent of the price.
Prices are increasing because demand is high, and supply is not keeping up.
13 daysI wouldn’t say demand is high I would say demand is glitched and infinite. The AI bubble has gotten to such a scale where all the existing parts are already sold but even further they have sold parts that don’t even exist yet for datacenters which haven’t even started construction yet in order to satisfy a projected demand curve the sales people dreamed up in order to somehow promise a slight profitability of this entire mess.
- deadcream@sopuli.xyzEnglish12 days
It sounds more and more like planned economy rather than capitalism lol
- ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish12 days
It’s all of the downsides of a planned economy without the upsides of having a fucking plan.
- InnerScientist@lemmy.worldEnglish13 days
Fair enough, I meant consumer demand as in not ai and data centers
- hayvan@piefed.worldEnglish12 days
Also most consumer demand indirect. Few people buy RAM sticks but a lot of people buy laptops, tablets, smartphones, TVs, consoles, cars, fridges, toasters etc.
- forkDestroyer@infosec.pubEnglish13 days
Legit thinking of selling RAM sticks to rich people so that I can pay rent a bit easier lol (not actually loling)
- ThePantser@sh.itjust.worksEnglish12 days
Is RAM finally worth more than a kidney? I have two of those but I have 4 32GB ram sticks, can I keep my kidneys when I need to pay my bills?
- EarlOfSam@quokk.auEnglish12 days
You and I, friend.
We’ll recycle A pile of scrapped computers and we’ll be in Belize by winter!
🏝️🍹
Hell yeah, another fellow user of DDR3. It’ll live forever!
I don’t really see a reason to upgrade, my i5 from 2009 is still running fine. Damn, now that I’m writing it out, that does sound old
- mushroommunk@lemmy.todayEnglish12 days
Not really. A lot of regular consumers got priced out of DDR5 so they went back to DDR4 and now it’s insanely priced too. Like $150+ for a 2x8GB sticks
- Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish12 days
Truly hate this timeline
I’ve been looking at used PCs and usually those are just missing the gpu, but now I’ve been seeing no RAM and no SSD. At least with the gpu only being missing it was semi functional if there was integrated graphics, but now you are just basically buying a brick until you can get 3 components that cost 400 or so USD
- Random Dent@lemmy.mlEnglish12 days
I started building a RAID before the prices of hard drives popped off, so I got the enclosure and one drive, I was going to buy the other drives when I had some spare cash. Now a single 8tb HDD (not even solid state!) is $450 CAD and there’s no way I can spend $1350 to finish this thing so it’s just sitting there.
- HereIAm@lemmy.worldEnglish12 days
I had the exact same plan, luckily I had a couple of other 1TB drives lying around I’ve made a RAID from. but i took a screenshot of the drives I wanted when I bought my first 4TB drive, and then I looked at them again 11 months later…
Lower price is from 06/25 and the other is 05/26.
- Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.worksEnglish12 days
Honestly, what’s the point in selling the machine at all at that point. Clearly those components are worth more out of the machine than in.
- 12 days
Like one of the guys says in the comments, highly unlikely. We’re already seeing some downward pressure on prices the past couple of months. The market simply does not support another 90% of hikes (between this guy’s Q3 and Q4 predictions)
Chinese brands are still producing and still adding supply to the global supply chain. Countries that can utilize chinese ram will buy them because they are cheaper, and they will keep producing more because they still can get a price premium from all the pent up demand.
Still gonna be a few years before prices come back down, but i’ll be amazed if we see much more of an increase.
- sobchak@programming.devEnglish12 days
We’re probably seeing demand destruction. I’m curious if the thin-client thing that a lot of these companies seem to want will actually take off. I’ve also been noticing a lot of “cyberdeck” and retro handheld stuff lately; I wonder if that’s related.
- GoatSynagogue@lemmy.worldEnglish12 days
Retro handhelds have been increasing their prices due to the shortages every month or so. Since they don’t build in massive numbers they’re some of the most affected.
- Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish12 days
Do you have a source for that downward pressure? I’d like a little good news if it’s real lol
- GoatSynagogue@lemmy.worldEnglish12 days
Downward pressure? Where? Prices have continued to go up and up.
- muhyb@programming.devEnglish12 days
Yeah, a RPi 5 16GB is almost at laptop prices now. At least here.
- 12 days
Does anyone here know how to get the DDR5 Chinese RAM?
Ali express but the prices end up being the same because the demand is still to high for China to match the supply.
I think they’re a bit cheaper if you buy within China, but globally it ends up being better to pick a good OEM with proper warranty.
- SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish11 days
I tried buying some rather cheap DDR5 RDIMMs through Alibaba. The process to actually buy is pretty vague, and I found that the suppliers I contacted really suck at communication. The two I spoke to, didn’t acknowledge the details I was actually asking about, and spoke broken English at best. The shipper I spoke with, Cooperate Logistics, had fairly clear communication, but was very slow at conversation - it took about two or three days for our dialogues to conclude. They tried to buy the goods on my behalf, but they couldn’t - the supplier had to send the goods over to the shipper’s place, THEN it would go to me.
There is potential in buying from Alibaba, but many of the suppliers feel sketchy, and the bad communications make it hard to feel trust. I ultimately gave up. 😔
- 11 days
It might end up being cheaper to fly to hong kong and buy a terabyte at this point.
- Flatfire@lemmy.caEnglish12 days
They’re actively producing DDR4 and 5, with Corsair notably having purchased supply from CXMT for use in their Vengance line, just not for North American distribution
- 12 days
I’m so glad I bought 128gb RAM in my new PC 1 year ago…
- brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish12 days
Same.
It was actually FOMO when it felt like we were in a memory IC price trough. I got a 2TB SATA drive too.
- 12 days
I got a 4Tb NVMe and a 10Tb SATA drive, so happy I didn’t wait.
- 12 days
Ellipsis are wrongly used again. Why do you people keep using shit you do not understand?
- cash@sh.itjust.worksEnglish11 days
Do you fully understand your limbic, respiratory, and nervous systems? If not, better stop using them fuckface.
Although I’d argue you’re not doing a great job at using your limbic system anyway.
- trainden@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish12 days
- als@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish12 days
They were grouping together to all raise prices at once. If everyone who sold food suddenly raised their costs together, would it be fair? There’d be consumers to buy it. Basic economics!
Just because people would pay more for something, doesn’t mean they should have to
- als@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish12 days
The problem lies in 3 companies owning a monopoly on dram production and all conspiring together to make things shit for everyone who isn’t them
- boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish12 days
They very much can when they’ve been proven to collude to keep prices up.
If any one of them started making more RAM, they’d make a lot more profit than the other two. If all 3 did, they’d all still make a bunch of profit, but not as much as right now. They have an agreement that nobody ramps up RAM production so everyone gets to keep super high margins.
In the past they’ve literally agreed upon a target price to keep…
- GoatSynagogue@lemmy.worldEnglish11 days
You’re alleging that they’re doing this. Zero proof.
3 companies can’t have a monopoly. It’s literally in the definition of the word monopoly.
Just need to sign a few more multi-billion contracts of massive data centers that will totally get built out.
- anon_8675309@lemmy.worldEnglish12 days
Then micron is going to lose money as they have been getting businesses to lock in for 5 years.
Yeah, I’m not sure they’re going to go up that far into the future.
That is potentially 100s of millions that Micron left on the table.
Who does that?
- postnataldrip@lemmy.worldEnglish11 days
At this rate I’ll be able to part out my homelab and pay off my mortgage soon
