10 hoursWhatever replaces Tenor needs to allow for more specificity in searching. If I search “lemur” and I see 3 orangutans, a chimp and a 12 gibbons, and maybe 1 actual lemur, I’m still happy to have simians, but I really needed a lemur, man. I was quite fucking specific in my search term. Had I written “monkey” but it showed me a series of apes, I wouldn’t mind that so much.
Also, “cat on skateboard” has fuck all to do with a poorly staged video of a dog playing Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater with a set of gaming bongos. Again, glad to see it, but where’s my skateboarding cat??
- Squizzy@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
If google got rid of it you can bet there is sone slop shit coming to replace it
powered by grok, so you’re running a risk every time you use it
- CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish3 hours
running a risk
Your comment made me think of something I had not considered.
Somewhere in this AI image generation infrastructure, there must be some poor asshole who has to look at whatever is made to say its OK or not. Which has to be at least as traumatic as doing the same thing for facebook or any site that has censorship. Or do they use the AI to vet the AI which causes issues like you describe?
honestly the best use of AI image recognition is to recognize illegal content. that spares humans the trauma. but you have to have a database of illegal content to train it on, so it’s a catch-22. also AI (LLMs in particular, so it’d need to be some other kind of ML program) is notorious for being wrong a lot. which means it still needs more human supervision than an AI that does its function properly.
- CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
Yeah that last line is what I was picturing. Ive messed around a little with AI chatbots and the amount of things that I know from my professional life that it got wrong was pretty astounding.
which is why they just want you asking general shit. they know if you ask specifics that you already know the answer to, it will answer wrong a hell of a lot of the time. if you’re an expert in the field, you know that it’s wrong. if you’re not, you just shrug and accept it.
which is why i get such a good chuckle out of vibe coders. that’s their field. they should be able to recognize that the work the LLM puts out is shit.
i really don’t want anyone to be an expert in recognizing CSAM though. ideal worlds and shit.
- CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish3 minutes
But thats just silly. AI is being touted as an intelligence machine.
I guess it’s a stupid person’s idea of “smart”, it only knows general things, sometimes.
- Fit_Series_573@lemmy.worldEnglish19 hours
RIP Google Play Music. Have yet to find another streaming service who’s algorithm knew me so well to discover new music
there were two things i loved. one i think was called turntable, which let you and friends take turns DJing. you’d queue up a song and then after your 2 or 3 or idk i usually used it with the same group friends got their plays in, you got yours. i don’t know what happened to it as we stopped using it.
then was thesixtyone, which had great artist discovery. but they were not the best about getting licenses and lost their eventual IP lawsuit. after that they kind of turned into spotify. i’ve just been using my private collection since then.
- [object Object]@lemmy.caEnglish13 hours
I am very confused
I guess it’s a stupid saying… why is it more stupid than I thought?
Al I’m saying is it makes no sense for Google to dump Google Music. It’s in their wheelhouse, it’s a natural fit for their infrastructure, it could have worked with YouTube.
- Uranium 🟩@sh.itjust.worksEnglish13 hours
Ahhh, that makes sense!
Your initial comment sounded like you were saying missing Google Music didn’t make one lick of sense
Not that google deciding to shut down google music didn’t make any sense
- Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish6 hours
I’m in the camp of “relying on an algorithm to serve you music it wants promote is an awful thing” but people have been trained that reliance on algorithms telling them what to consume is the only option.
- village604@adultswim.fanEnglish5 hours
It can be a bad thing if you rely solely on it.
But it’s really not any different than finding new music on the radio.
i mean, it’s not that different from listening to the radio. they have the stack of stuff that the station has been paid to play, and then the stuff the DJ wants to play, and you have to get through one before you can get to the other.
- 9point6@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
I mean, you’re kinda describing what they actually did
Google music was less killed, more rebranded as YouTube Music (but they did launch new app UIs at the same time that were missing various features from the old ones,). I’ve still got the same library of music I uploaded in Google Music that doesn’t exist in their standard library, and you can still upload today.
Being able to have my hundreds of playlists from over the years complete with all the obscure remixes and unreleased bootlegs on them, is pretty much the only reason I still use it over something like Spotify
- Zarobi@aussie.zoneEnglish8 hours
I don’t trust Google not to nuke my playlist randomly for copyright… Especially my precious bootleg remixes that have been purged from the internet. I use EverMusic with Dropbox for that reason.
- huppakee@lemmy.worldEnglish19 hours
Still mourning Google Reader, luckily we can find consolation i in that all those apps and services weren’t strategically killed by an evil corporation.
Yeah i liked it too.
I self host freshrss which is better nowadays.
Discord needs to offer a setting that you can pick which gif hosting website you want to search. GIPHY results are fucking ass cheeks.
I’m literally just keeping a browser open with tenor and manually copying the gifs over to discord.
I wish it would at least let me switch from GIPHY search to anything else.
- GoatSynagogue@lemmy.worldEnglish16 hours
The real problem was probably that Tenor was free, and Google didn’t see a way it could make money from a GIF API.
The author can’t figure out how a company can monetise an API? Monetisation clearly isn’t the problem here. It’s possible that they’re going to launch a new product incorporating this, or more likely incorporate it into Gemini.
I covered this in this comment here: https://lemmy.world/comment/24536634
Google basically shuttered Tenor and heavily funded the replacement, which is showing sketchy early signs of ads.
- psycotica0@lemmy.caEnglish9 hours
On March 27, 2018, Tenor was acquired by Google. The company has continued to operate as a standalone brand.
Huh, well if you couldn’t see a way to make money with it, maybe you shouldn’t have bought it…
- adarza@lemmy.caEnglish6 hours
i’m sure that the site’s acquisition was always about user tracking data and never about it being ‘profitable’ itself.
Tenor was quick, great, and optimal solution. I liked it.
Google (Tenor) notified API Users around five months before June 30, 2026, the access restriction date:
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46628926Klipy is being offered as a direct alternative:
- https://klipy.com/migrateDiscord also migrated to Klipy about a month ago. Yesterday, I saw positive feedback in communities about Klipy’s more accurate search.
Worth noting that while Klipy is headed up by ex Tenor employees, Google has also heavily invested in Klipy.
At my community (The Gamers’ Tavern) we ditched Discord (when all the age verification crap started) in favour of Discourse and Fluxer (Discord clone, but open source and self hostable) and currently Klipy integration is offering a sketchy and vague pricing model that is looking like it is going to include ads.
So, that’s the vein that runs through all of this. Google killed Tenor, funded a new startup that’ll eventually likely be somewhere they can of course shove ads into.
Thanks for the (more insider than i’ve got) information! I don’t know anyone at tenor or klipy. shit, i didn’t even know klipy existed.
Thank you very much for more insightful information! Google has always been a changer, not a talker, and appreciate them!
Yet, may I ask why did you choose Fluxer over Stoat, and if the source of Google investing in it available?Source: Klipy themselves.
Why Fluxer over Stoat, there is a lot to unpack here, but self hosting was much more mature and well thought out with Fluxer. Docker support was way beyond Stoat, and development is proceeding at a much better rate with mobile apps, integrations etc. We probably answer a lot of the questions here: https://blog.gamerstavern.online/innkeeper/about-community-and-communities
Roger that. Thank you very much for the response and references!
I wish you safety, stability, and peace!
- pulsewidth@lemmy.worldEnglish15 hours
Tenor was always slow for me and had shit search.
I didn’t know it was owned by Google, but now that I do it makes complete sense.
May I ask what sense the “bad search” does in the scope of one of the most common and known advertisement business backed by their fundamentally crucial systems for search, statistics, and analytics?
- pulsewidth@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
I read your questions three times but I still can’t tell what you’re asking.
- 20 hours
Heads up that there is a self-hosted gif platform I’ve been tinkering on, original repo is here but it was more or less abandonded. I’ve been adding to it slowly here: Gifable.
The base repo was good, a selfhosted Gif hosting, but I needed more integrations so I’ve been managing my own fork for about a year. The largest one is a way that Matrix servers can integrate, so it now actually stands up a matrix server and can federate your gifs with other matrix users. The second item is adding Giphy support (I had Tenor as well… but guess I’ll remove that), so you can alternatively search Giphy.
I won’t say it’s polished, but if Tenor is leaving a sour note in your mouth, having someone else hosting would probably be neat.
Screenshot:
- cecilkorik@lemmy.caEnglish17 hours
Pfft, “not polished”. Looks way more polished than manually dumping shit into a folder on my http server. Thanks!
Github sucks though, unreliable and headed to bad places. Considered mirroring or rehosting it somewhere with forgejo? Self-hostable, or there are some public options
- 17 hours
Thanks! Design was mostly the original creators though.
It is mirrored on my private Forgejo instance, github was the original choice if the first eng, I will think about migrating
- amgine@lemmy.worldEnglish16 hours
This looks interesting. I want to host my own discord alternative but gifs were what I missed most.
- 15 hours
Happy cake day! Yes San boat. Element was the closest thing I found to discord, but gifs were annoying. Getting this added to apps is the hardest thing, but it’s mostly that how to I say “add this integration please” when it’s only my one server
- softotteep@pawb.socialEnglish12 hours
You should try Sable! It’s way closer to discord than element is.
