- 2 hours
Windows 11 sucks. Find a linux distro that you like and is easy to use.
- Joelk111@lemmy.worldEnglish1 hour
While I agree, that’s a lot to ask of a PC gamer, let alone a console gamer. Maybe if SteamOS starts supporting hardware better, that could be a good distro we could point console gamers towards.
- Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish3 hours
Which will lead then straight to Linux because Linux is free, fast, and awesome and doesn’t spy in you or serve you ads while windows 11…
Fuck big tech
- TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish4 hours
Nothing wrong with steam os. Linux is the future. Fuck consoles, fuck Microslop.
- Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
dont do it. dont do the windows. do the linux. be nicer to yourself. youll thank yourself later.
- jaschen306@sh.itjust.worksEnglish7 hours
Just use Winhance. It not only removes all AI bullshit, it also makes your computer faster. Linux boxes are great if you wanna live exclusively in Steam. Some of us pirate games that aren’t on Steam.
- TheSporkBomber@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
And for those people pirating non-steam games heroic launcher works just fine. Or lutris.
- Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
so what you are saying is you didnt do any very basic newb research to discover yet that you can add non steam games to steam too.
and you havent heard of herioc …in which you can also add random games to
or lutris.
the advice you have for me isnt sound. or researched.
- CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
Just use Winhance
“Just drink arsenic with berries. The berries make it taste better. Don’t worry about the rest”
- zebidiah@lemmy.caEnglish6 hours
Suddenly the Steam box isn’t that bad anymore…
If I’m not gonna own what I buy, then I trust steam and an infinitely larger catalogue of games over Sony and their entire history of proprietary connectors and bullshit.
Obviously building you own and running steam os is better and cheaper, but for normies who want a console experience and don’t want to assemble their own PC, manage cables, or know about bandwidth settings for your ram in the bios, the steam machine is starting to look appealing
- Kairos@lemmy.todayEnglish16 hours
Hey! If you’re used to not being able to play some games, use Linux. It is much more efficient which you can use to avoid upgrades, more powerful cards, etc.
15 hoursAnd what does it help to turn to microslop? They will just bury you in subscriptions and data steal?
- Railcar8095@lemmy.worldEnglish8 hours
I’m amazed there’s an audience for a windows site. Linux? Yeah, give me more. Mac, I guess. But windows? I haven’t heard any news that aren’t bad since forever.
- 6 hours
Yes. Exactly! That’s why we’re so die hard into Linux, here.
Just get a Linux distro and throw some PC parts together and you’ll be better off with that then W11 or shitbox.
DDR3 should still be fairly ok for a starter PC.
Plenty of good old games run very well on Linux and older hardware.
My gaming machine is still using DDR3. Never really saw a reason to upgrade, games mostly became more demanding in the graphics-sector, even the first-gen i5 is doing reasonably well with most games, even newer ones. And if not, I blame badly optimized games.
RAM speed usually is the last thing you have to worry about in games.
- tirateimas@lemmy.ptEnglish24 hours
People… Windows and Xbox is not an improvement (it can be even worse). Build a Linux Gaming PC, that’s true freedom.
PC is PC.
For the first step it doeant matter what OS you run.
Your issue is the second step.- 6 hours
True. But anyone installing on a bare metal build should seriously consider installing Linux, today. The set of games that actually run simpler on Windows is getting thinner every year.
There’s mostly fear driving the decision, and most people fear Linux more than they need to, and don’t fear Microsoft’s apathy toward their custom PC build outcomes as much as they should.
With all the license unlock bullshit, my last bare metal Windows install was a bigger pain in the ass than any of my recent bare metal Linux installs.
The main appeal of consoles is that you can essentially just plug and play without having to worry too much about extra configuration. As much as I like Linux, it’s generally not a good alternative for console folks who just want to relax and play video games.
- 6 hours
As much as I like Linux, it’s generally not a good alternative for console folks who just want to relax and play video games.
That’s why I buy Valve hardware.
It can be on a steamdeck.
But building your own Steam-PC (with their distro) still is not plug and play like a console is.- 15 hours
I do hope people realise that 7th gen and earlier consoles are still fucking awesome. Yes, that’s PS3/Xbox360/Wii/GBA/DS era.
Some of those still have lively homebrew scenes. Hell, the Wii just got a new (physical) release game.
Reject modernity. Embrace retro.
- zebidiah@lemmy.caEnglish6 hours
I have a 360 with an rgh mod and a 2tb HDD in it… It’s fucking amazing! I have it running running Aurora and I’ve got literally every single game on 360 worth giving a shit about.
I also have an old PS3 running HEN (soft mod - works on every revision and every firmware) on it, that I keep around exclusively for PlayStation exclusives
7th Gen is God tier!
- 3 hours
Right? I still have my OG Xbox 360, Wii U etc, with physical discs.
For a while, I went the other way; I bought a Lenovo M93p (think: size of Wii) - it runs everything up to PS2 era at 2x resolution, as well as PC games to around 2015/6 era (and later indies). Total cost was under $100. I turned it into a kiosk with Playnite, so you could turn it on and be playing whatever in under 10 seconds.
Right now I have the OG Wii (modded) sitting in its place…something about the joys of original hardware speaks to me. But I could (should) swap the lenovo back in. That way I have Just Cause 2 sitting right next to Mario Kart Double Dash, right next to Luanti and modded Fallout 3.
Part of me thinks “eh, emulation” but the other part is “dude…not everything is Nintendo”.
- jtrek@startrek.websiteEnglish22 hours
A lot of Linux works out of the box now. If folks started selling preconfigured Linux machines like you can buy for windows, that’s all most people need. Valve is following a good strategy
- Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
yes i mean its so close now. there are preconfigured linux installs. nobara for example.
- 22 hours
Yeah, I have a steam deck and I’ve used the desktop a few times, just to check stuff out, but I very easily could have overlooked it completely. It’s perfectly possible for a linux computer to be as easy to use as a console.
- Solrac@lemmy.worldEnglish23 hours
I’ll admit, I don’t play games with intrusive anti-sheet, but frankly, I don’t remember the last time I had to configure a game on Linux because they mostly run out of the box for me
It’s on a case-by-case basis of course so it wouldn’t be the same for everyone. But generally speaking, Linux isn’t user-friendly (though I’m not saying it isn’t at all) in the sense that everything is guaranteed to be compatible with it and work immediately, whether it be certain peripherals that require extra setup to work correctly or software that was never specifically made to work on Linux. I know that from experience, having had some head-scratcher moments when trying to run an obscure/older game or trying to get certain hardware to run on my Linux machine without it having had compatible firmware out of the box. And I wouldn’t even say that I’m all that unknowledgeable with this sort of thing.
I’m not trying to disparage Linux or anything, but it’s definitely not so black-and-white as it easily working well for everyone all the time. It’s never really accommodated for that unfortunately, especially since there’s no one universal Linux distro with all those sore points snuffed out. Until that’s the case I don’t think it would typically appeal to the average person who only games on the side.
- 6 hours
But generally speaking, Linux isn’t user-friendly (though I’m not saying it isn’t at all) in the sense that everything is guaranteed to be compatible with it and work immediately, whether it be certain peripherals that require extra setup to work correctly or software that was never specifically made to work on Linux.
On the hardware side, you’re really just describing custom PC builds. Pre-built Linux gaming machines exist and do solve the hardware issues.
On the software side, outside of the big asshole publishers, it’s a solved problem. Five years ago I shopped super carefully for SteamDeck compatibility. Today, OS compatibility is rarely even a consideration for me. Games just work on the SteamDeck. SteamOS has replaced Windows as the gaming default OS.
Indie devs now use game development frameworks that work perfectly on Linux, in order to get SteamDeck verified.
Even most of my “Windows Only” games just pull the correct emulators and run perfectly, automatically, when launched from Steam.
Gaming on Linux is a very different world, today.
- Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
what youre saying is important and true in certain cases, yes. In mine it took me 2 months to adapt my brain and tweak linux to the point it is now working like a well oiled machine.
however my needs were very explicit being that i was building a simulation machine (not AI) i even had it planned down to hardware spec regarding cores, chips and ram for a very specific task outside average gamer use.
your average user might just need a basic game box (they could even just reuse a crap box and itll run. thats the beauty of linux. ) and throw some mint on it which does work pretty much out of the box and with steam you might need some light configuring.
EG: just editing the launch command in general tab when you right click the game:
SteamDeck=1 %command%
or install gamemode and then: gamemoderun %command%
for some games especially old ones you might need to just swap around which proton you use(in compatability menu)
most games dont need any of this as the proton GE updates to iron out all the compatibilty.
This is what the Gabe Cube and Steam Deck are for. Price rises have been unfortunate and normies aren’t going to consider those anymore. I guess the Nintendo Switch 2 with some game cartridges might be their next choice…although this is obviously a huge mistake if the point was to find a company with consumer friendly practices.
- makeshift0546@lemmy.todayEnglish23 hours
It’s still a mess. Only ready for technical users. Not even in the same ballpark for Xbox.
- 6 hours
It’s still a mess. Only ready for technical users. Not even in the same ballpark for Xbox.
Tell me don’t have a SteamDeck without telling me you don’t have a SteamDeck.
Unless you just mean building a PC, in general. Sure. Building a gaming PC isn’t for everyone.
- makeshift0546@lemmy.todayEnglish4 hours
Steamdeck has numerous issues as the best case and is embedded AMD. Flakey Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, dealing with decky breaking every few weeks. Inconsistent resolution scaling issues on desktop mode.
From what im seeing people are looking at steam/linux as an alternative not windows. With the RAM shortage, windows is probably the worst solution out of the available options.
Either way it sucks to get rid of the only way to get used games anymore. Im hoping this kicks back more and we see more partnerships with companies like limited run games and others who do physical releases. https://megacatstudios.com/products/zpf for example.
- ApollosArrow@lemmy.worldEnglish12 hours
My question becomes what would limited run games create the games to play on in the future? PS6 will likely not have a physical game option if I had to guess. Nintendo Switch 2 just came out, so that may be the last console to support physical games. I guess we’d be stuck using old machines. Given how powerful current systems are, that may be enough for indie studios.
- 6 hours
I guess we’d be stuck using old machines. Given how powerful current systems are, that may be enough for indie studios.
The Evercade is proactively selling cartridge first game systems and games.
The available hardware is more retro focused, in power level, but everything in the line runs on every available device (outside of some license bullshit by Capcom and Namco, which I think they cleared up).
This is what i am hoping. Windows is still MS and their anti gaming bull.
- twinnie@feddit.ukEnglish1 day
Anything but Linux…
I don’t see why they don’t at least try it, it’s free.
- irish_link@lemmy.worldEnglish24 hours
My most recent switch for my desktop was Fedora. Super simple to install steam and most games I have tried so far work. Happy to try other flavors as well because they all have cool features worth exploring. Happy to try anything new. Suggest you all do the same just like Winnie suggests.
- 1 day
The last thing I want is AAA game studios supporting Linux due to a max exodus of Windows users, because that means they’ll shoehorn their kernel anticheat into proton. Keep that shit away from my work machines. If the capability is included at all, then it will become a vector for nasty exploits.
- MartianSands@sh.itjust.worksEnglish1 day
I can’t see how they’d do it, proton gets installed by the steam client. That client doesn’t run with root privilege, so at the very least they’d have to trigger a password dialog which would be highly obvious.
- 24 hours
The average Windows user will happily click “yes” on the UAC prompt when it pops up, so I don’t think it would be that conspicuous to someone who isn’t technical. I’m also pretty sure PolicyKit could get involved but I’ve never messed with it.
- makeshift0546@lemmy.todayEnglish23 hours
Because it’s still a mess. Only technical users are going to stick with it.
- Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish6 hours
just when was the last time you even saw a linux distro? Ubuntu runs like a smart phone now within the last year of updates.
srsly its just icon buttons now. the need for terminal is all but a distant memory now for the average user.
- makeshift0546@lemmy.todayEnglish4 hours
Daily steamdeck and bazzite user. Devops + SE 40 hours a week 🤷♂️. I’m regularly in the terminal fixing stuff.
- Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish1 hour
Then perhaps you’re overthinking it. that is not uncommon for tech types BTW. I’ve seen more inefficient program code from so called ‘geniuses’ than anything and I just can’t help put my head in my hands whenever they go off like you are rn.
Kuz a child or boomer grandparent could easily run ubuntu and probably never ever have to call IT unless something actually physically busted on their puter. Linux is smart enough to tell them what is wrong.
The fact it told me clear errors such as a drive has days before it’s toast was an amazing experience after working blind in windows. Someone computer illiterate could just haul their box and throw it at the geek squad and just tell them to hook up a new drive.
Unlike windows: ‘it broke. Go fish.’.
I mean it’s a no brainer. if you are forced digital anyway, PC has both steam and gamepass (for pc or ultimate if you also have an xbox). Why lock yourself into an ecosystem that provides no value, when you can go into an ecosystem that not only provides you with most of the Xbox catalog if you want to pay a sub, but also all of the other PC storefronts.
The only reason people ever went console was for the low price, exclusives, the convienence and the physical market. The exclusives have sucked, the price is no longer low, and the physical market has been nuked by an atom bomb.
The question Sony should really be asking here is “why do people buy into our market” because they are actively destroying it.
