- 13 hours
This kind of news should be paired with the pre-order numbers of GTA6. To better understand how many of the Sony users actually care about this.
Hint: it’s not a lot.
- Goodeye8@piefed.socialEnglish9 hours
You don’t need a lot of people. I don’t remember the exact percentage but it’s something like if 10% of the population is willing to show support your cause it’s enough to get a law passed. Just look at SKG initiative. It took a million Europeans to get the political ball rolling not just in the EU but also in California. What we need is a continuation of SKG where digital purchases of products actually gives us ownership over said product and not just a use license where companies like Sony can do whatever they want with your purchase.
11 hoursI’ll just add the tangent: imaging pre-ordering a digital-only release.
“Pretty please, Take Two, can I give you my money in exchange for nothing at all of value?”
What even is this world. What have they done to us.
- 10 hours
What if they run out of bytes because everyone is downloading at the same time? Preordering allows you to have your bytes to download already assigned., right?
I like to imagine that this is the answer they give if you ask the reason to preorder a digital game several months ahead its launch.
- Switorik@sh.itjust.worksEnglish14 hours
I’m sure they are so upset that they’ll go and rent another $70 game from them to cope.
- 14 hours
I won’t. I won’t buy any games from Sony for the foreseeable future
- 2 hours
I can live without their consoles for the rest of my game playing life. My God, it isn’t like they do anything daring like Nintendo or Sega.
They offer no actual advantage over my existing pc beyond IP.
Microsoft and Sony haven’t really pushed gaming hardware forward, and if they are just selling software then my graphics card does better.
- Switorik@sh.itjust.worksEnglish13 hours
I’m just sick of the general population enabling this behavior.
Many gamers are like meth-heads. They just need their next fix, hence pre-orders for digital games.
Even if GTA6 would need a donation of your blood and all of your personal information, I doubt that sales figures would take a significant hit.
- 9 hours
Something about if you buy something but it can be taken away from you arbitrarily by the company…
This is why I really want to make my own open-source console platform.
Indie developers can target it, it can have some kind of cartridges (probably flash based) which people can sell directly, and complete open-source and hackable (but with simple ways to customize, so people can buy accesssories instead of making them, if they’re not maker inclined).
If enough people could use this console, then even AAA devs might consider it.
But the problem is it has to be decently powerful while staying affordable. Traditionally consoles lose money (recouped when people buy first party titles). It’s a failed business model as evident by all these major studios moving away from it. First SEGA leaving the console market, then Nintendo making Game Key Cards, and now Sony removing physical all together.
I mean tbh, people could simply target the Raspberry Pi 3B as a standard platform for gaming. Those still go for $35, unlike the Pi 4 and Pi 5, and are capable of 2D games and limited 3D games (perfectly fine for Indie). It runs Linux which is easy enough to develop for both in direct code and from game engines (except Unreal which is annoying about it). Add some sort of “card hat” like those readers a few people have made, and it could be great for that world at least. Wrap it up into a product for like $50 with a controller and it could be something
But idk, the AAA world is gonna continue to shift from these models. At least PC is a bit better with its digital storefronts, but it’s not perfect either, and you still don’t “own” anything.
This idea is honestly pointless. PC exists and is perfect because piracy exists.
The ARM nature of the Pi could make it difficult depending on Engine. Might be better to look at an x86_64 SBC to build a platform on. Those tend to be more expensive tho
- 14 hours
The closest thing we have to a open source gaming console is the steam machine
But yeah, having open source gaming consoles would be cool
I wish they would exist too
- HeyJoe@lemmy.worldEnglish14 hours
Im sorry if this sounds cold, because I agree with you, but I feel like it would take ALOT to ever get something like this off the ground let alone profitable enough to make sure it survives. It would take a massive injection of money by the biggest companies to create something that people would even look twice at sadly.
The closest thing to what you are proposing would be the failed OUYA console back in like 2013. It didnt invest in physical media, but it did want a store where indie developers can market exclusive games with the same hopes you had where it would get big enough to gain the attention of bigger companies. I invested in the kickstarter and had one, it was cool but needed a lot of work and fizzled out when it became clear that they were not going to make money off that model as there were not enough quality games being made to keep it afloat. On top of this the handful of really good games just ended up being ported to Steam, Switch, and even PS or Xbox which meant why bother at all buying it on OUYA. I think the biggest successful game that they had first was Towerfall.
The end of ownership came a long time ago for PS players. Now it’s just the end of fancy boxes and discs that give an illusion of ownership.
Which is still bad, but let’s not mix up facts.
- Link@rentadrunk.orgEnglish14 hours
Many PS5 games can be fully installed from the disk with no internet connection needed.
Technically Sony has the ability to remotely disable any game so that PS4s and PS5s don’t read the disc. Though that requires the console to be connected to the internet. As long as it’s not, you should be good. Not exactly ‘ownership’, but fairly close.
- absquatulate@lemmy.worldEnglish11 hours
The sooner people stop hanging on to “physical” ( and move on to more productive conservation initiatives ) the better. Sony’s not likely to budge and frankly the medium has been dying for a while. Now DRM-free digital like gog or pirate copies still has a future I think, but relegated to a niche. I’ve been trying to picture the future landscape of gaming and I fear it’s mostly “forever games”. Both sony and ms have been pushing for live service/mobile crap ( and they still have the power to do it ) because a single mediocre skin or season pass can be as lucrative as a whole game. No need to innovate when you can make billions on slop. Take Candy Crush - it’s what, 20 years old and still brings in billions. Same for roblox, despite being known as a pedo-heaven. Games as an artform looks like an increasingly niche hobby for hipster/aging gamers, because the vast majority of people just love their slop.
It’s now time move on - hoard, archive and maybe still try and push for decent consumer protections.
