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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1319937/grapheneos-says-revolut-is-blocking-its-users-over-google-play-checks
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3 hourswell, I have no idea what a Revolut is (ah, a UK based bank? odd name), but I mean, they still could not stop web-based banking, right?
- flop_leash_973@lemmy.worldEnglish7 hours
As shit as it is there is a every growing list of things you had better just be prepared to not interface with on your phone if you are going to run a Android phone without Play Services installed.
Flip side to that is once I switched my Pixel to GrapheneOS without having access to things that only work right with Play Services the phone became way less interesting outside of phone, text, casual web browsing, and photos. Which is probably a good thing.
- 2 hours
I can whole heartedly agree. Its almost like when you take the out the scientifically crafted environments that are designed to suck your soul and wallet out of the equation that your relationship with technology just gets better.
- snrkl@lemmus.orgEnglish24 minutes
If you are interested, here is the book that taught them all how to do it:
https://www.nirandfar.com/hooked/
Here is the book the same author wrote when he realised his kids were getting addicted to devices:
If you’re in the UK then nationwide and monzo bank apps are confirmed to work
- Bell@lemmy.worldEnglish16 hours
They just lost a customer. This was on my list of apps to use but not if they are this dumb
- superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish17 hours
This is probably something you have to get used to when using Graphene unfortunately. Just pack up and leave, there are tons of banks where the app works fine.
- Ludicrous0251@piefed.zipEnglish2 hours
There are also tons of banks that let you bank through a web browser, banking apps are hardly critical if you have a sane bank
- Mihies@programming.devEnglish15 hours
But why would Revolut do something like that? They will lose customers and it’s not just in spite, I’d assume.
Edit: loose->lose, customers
- SirSamuel@lemmy.worldEnglish16 hours
Terribly sorry, I try not to be a pedant about these things, but this is major pet peeve of mine. Up there with people saying “anywho”
It’s “lose”.
Loose describes the screw I have
Lose is what I do with my mind on the daily
I love you anyway, have a great day
- faintwhenfree@lemmus.orgEnglish13 hours
Anywhere exists, anyhow exists.
Why the discrimination against anywho and anywhy??
Who can do it? Anywho can do it? Why can they do it? Anywhy they can do it?
- SirSamuel@lemmy.worldEnglish13 hours
NGL, I’m racist against “anywho” because my sister says it and she’s super annoying. Is it unfair? Yes. Will I change? Never
- Peffse@lemmy.worldEnglish11 hours
alright boys, we have a mission to take out SirSamuel’s sister so we can use “anywho” again.
Mine is “hence why,” I become irrationally irritated when I see it, but try to harbor no malice towards people I see using it.
I don’t understand either. What benefit do they have from blocking it (or what disadvantage do they have from not blocking)? There has to be some reason, no?
- BakedCatboy@lemmy.mlEnglish13 hours
I switched away from Ally bank for similar reasons, on my lineage’d pixel 5 with gapps, their app would always fail the login the first time then succeed the second time for no reason.
Then the bank I switched to, greenfi (coastal community bank) completely blocked login unless I had play protect (in Google play) enabled, which allows Google to uninstall any app from your phone without asking if they decide it’s a “security risk” or whatever - I can totally imaging them deciding that ReVanced / morphie / patched apps that block their ads to be a “security issue”. Luckily greenfi was more understanding and they did something that allowed me to log in again.
How did you get greenfi working, call/email them? It used to work for me on graphene until fairly recently.
- BakedCatboy@lemmy.mlEnglish8 hours
I emailed them at [email protected] with basically the message “I can’t login I get this message, what can I do to resolve this”, went back and forth a bunch, did all the annoying troubleshooting reinstalling the app, clearing app data, etc, sent screenshots of the message, assured I wasn’t using a VPN, sent all the details of my phone and rom version, had to poke them when they didn’t respond, got a random message of them saying “we see you were able to gain access” and I had to be like wtf no I didn’t?, told them it worked if I temporarily enabled play protect and said I would switch banks if I couldnt access check deposit which is mobile only, they replied with some justification why play protect is tripping it up, so I told them that I had no issues having play protect off with other financial apps like fidelity and chase bank, and finally got a response from a “supervisor” saying “i refreshed your settings” settings" and it started working.
Not sure if they just whitelisted my account or what, but maybe if enough people complain they will get tired of whitelisting everyone and change course.
- ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.netEnglish16 hours
Wait, Revolut was broken on Graphene OS a year ago, then they fixed it and now they blocked it again? WTF?
Thankfully I can still use the app, it seems they are rolling out these changes perhaps across test regions.
I always like the random GrapheneOS/Daniel Micay populism Twitter posts with 0 in depth proof and just throwing around that … is bad.
Don’t get me wrong they have a point that hardware attestation is a shitshow. But statements like “It includes a bunch of closed source third party libraries with privacy, security and compatibility issues. Several of these libraries supposedly exist to protect security but in fact create serious security weaknesses.” with 0 information what these libraries and issues are, are just unfounded accusations.
