In my eyes they are no different than Discord. They are a venture capital driven corporation who will use your data in the same manner. I like the added features for mmo clans. But that’s not enough to give up the privacy issue.

If you don’t have many concerns about privacy to start with then why not stick with Discord?

For straight up talk it works. UI is dated and I am not sure if you have to self host or not ?

Services like Discord allow you to keep an always on chat channel. People can join and leave as they like and no one is disrupted. Matrix is more like Skype/Zoom you create a call or session. But there is a person host. Once host leaves the call ends. In some cases you need to invite people to join the call.

Even stoat writes on their privacy policy they store everything you write on their servers. That if needed they will hand over what’s required of them as of GPDR compliancy.

Now if that analyze said data and sell it, that’s another thing entirely.

With both Stoat and Fluxer community audits should be done, if Fluxer has had AI generated code that opens up unforeseen risk.

Thanks for the heads up!

If you can remember please report in.

Oh no it’s not purely about federated. And I love Stoat. I just wanted to make sure that wasn’t lost in translation. Especially if you had any interest in that part

For me Fluxer is technically more feature complete with steaming options. But banners and custom emojis are behind paywalls. (Non local hosted)

Stoat offers free banners, emojis a nice UI even a community browser! Its voice chat works well enough but no streaming features. Stoat is purely donation based at the moment.

Sounds like Fluxer is gaining momentum mainstream wise. I’m happy with either option …

For me it’s purely the voice chat issue. I rarely use chat rooms anymore. Arguably something like TeamSpeak would work just fine for me.

I don’t believe Stoat is federated so your server would be in its own silo. But it’s great if you just want a space for you and your friends

Because you wrote this I too agree in heard mentality.

Actually let’s agree to disagree. Lemmy is a niche social media platform. By its very nature attracts a particular set of people. Those who like to self host those who care about privacy. A lot of college educated people. So it’s not insane to reason many of these people will have similar beliefs or political leanings.

This is further reinforced with what Lemmy is all about, topics for like minded people.

Does that capture everyone ? No ! Of course not. You still will find people who disagree all over the fediverse.

Humans by modern nature do their best to put themselves in a box. Don’t know why …

My dudes and dudettes , I’m blown away by the response. I’m going to be busy trying them all out. Thank you for the responses and I hope others found some good insight!

So you are surprised Facebook the company whose profit model is entirely ads is using data on WhatsApp to profit off ads?

No I don’t believe you.

May I recommend signal or stoat ? Or session ? Or so many better things.

You’ve given up on Reddit I assume enjoying the fediverse I think you try it with chat too