wait, are you saying that there’s this class that are the beneficiaries of governments and laws, and it’s the same as the class that doesn’t suffer any limitations when they do stuff that the governments and laws don’t like?

and that we’re in this other class, that the laws and stuff exist to punish, but has to fund them and pay for them, or we get punished for that too?

that’s fucking crazy.

nothing he did was wrong.

yeah it’s pretty crazy. almost like government is for some things and not others, and knows it, like maybe laws were always just an excuse and tool for victim blaming. or something.

I think he’s an easy target, and whether you think he’s culpable or not, he’s very visible, and taking him down in every possible way is a good thing.

your honor, I would move to dismiss on grounds that my clients actions were based as fuck.

agreements with americans are worth nothing. why keep your promises to them? they will not keep theirs to you. this whole shit show started because americans do not keep promises.

so, I don’t know if the shit hole made anything WORTH copying, but why respect american intellectual property? you know americans don’t respect yours. copy NVIDIA’s CUDA shit, if that’s efficient. fuck em.

but they left in the first place, rather than just saying “no. you are not a part of the government. DOGE is not in the constitution. the executive explicitly does not have this power. come back when you have a charter from congress. security was called the moment you walked into the control tower.”

yeah. they build a weapon to slay truth. and it’s really tedious to try and fight that. better to just let them.

i mean, I get it. it’s exhausting and infuriating, but this one is kind of fucking important. it’s not like it’s just a waste and a bunch of scams like cryptocurrency was.

will tell them to fuck off

why? how can you be confident? they’ve already compromised so many systems they should never have had access to. legally they should have been told to fuck off. anyone with integrity, regardless of the law, would have told them to fuck off. why are you so confident that ‘important’ people will tell them to fuck off?

AI would be great. AI could probably do a lot of human jobs.

large language models are not AI. please stop calling them that. they’re literally the same kind of algorithm your phone keyboard uses for autocorrect, but scaled way up with a bunch of recursion. start typing, then let autocorrect fill in a few sentences. this is just a fancier, not even much more sophisticated, version of that.

this isn’t about efficiency. this is about looting and lying. it’s about fucking up peoples lives, overwhelming them and frustrating them on a daily basis so they are too exhausted to care whats true, what’s human, or anything else but what daddy tells them.

it’s not about sense. it’s about derealization, overwhelming, doing their best to “flood the zone with shit”. makes people give up. makes people not care about the truth. makes people forget there is such a thing as truth, and cleave to simple bullshit tribal identities.

they kind of need this, because everything they want to do is fucking monstrous, and if anyone ever talked about it honestly at scale, they would all be hanged or beheaded in about five minutes. it’s their only hope of keeping power. chat bots are a great tool for making it happen.

because murdering truth is not good for science. fascism is not good for science funding. researchers use search engines all the time. academia is struggling with a LLM fraud problem.

it’s a known nazi dog whistle, dude.

I don’t know how much time you’ve spent around or in the milleiu of silicon valley, but there’s a LOT of fascist shit there. all the major funders of this technology are literally fascists. many of them sig heiling nazis, or assholes who talk openly about the need for a fuhrer/king. this is not secret. one of them, without this technology, has helped multiple far right governments into power, aided multiple genocides, and turned all of your older relatives into nazis. one of them is known as ‘the vampire of silicon valley’; the guy who invented the whole ‘blood boy’ thing (yes that’s real) and has dedicated his vast vast fortune to ending democracy, likes to name his shit after stuff from LOTR; first big one was ‘palantir’. look up what those are for in the books. since its modern resurgance, most of the investments from his VC fund have been in this technology.

im skeptical but open to that. it’s just that these models are pushing pushed into literally everything, to the point they’re hard to avoid. I can’t think of another kind of specialized lab tool that has had that done. I do not own, nor have I ever owned, a sample centrifuge. I don’t have CRISPR tools. I have never, outside of academic settings, opened wolfram alpha on my home computer. even AUTOCAD and solidworks are specialist tools, and I haven’t touched any version of either in years.

because these models, while not good for anything anyone should ever actually want outside a lab setting, are also very very good for fascism. they do everything a fascist needs to, aside from the actual physical killing.

and I don’t think the level of development and deployment that these tools get, along with the wildly inflated price of the hardware to run them (or anything else) and death of web search, the damage to academic journals, etc, is a net benefit. even to specialized researchers who have uses for specialized versions of them as the statistical tool that they are. certainly not to the fields over the long term.

fun how you didn’t respond to a single one of my points. because you can’t.

WTF

okay then. you tell me what these models are. at a technical level. how they work. what do they actually DO? do you know? are you just shilling? can you cite any sources? I’ll show you mine of slightly better quality, if you show me yours. don’t be shy, babe. hit me with that academic good-good. don’t worry, im currently bedbound and have (some) journal access.

it’s an easy fight to pick

no it’s not. i’ve been saying this for years, and the constant failure of these systems to have a single god damn utility for the average person while absolutely ruining every part of the internet we used to treasure as they’re shoved into everything in an enshittification push we couldn’t have imagined fifteen years ago is only just starting to convince people. fuck your fascist nonsense.

but the enemy is not there

they literally are. peter thiel’s seqouia capital, elon musk, and every other billionaire, even the less explicitly fascist ones, are shoving this wildly unprofitable technology into everything. they literally lose money on every query, massive amounts of our productive capacity has been dedicated to making the hardware that these run on. countries are having brown outs and water shortages to run that fucking hardware. I actually used to enjoy video games, but I haven’t been able to buy a new graphics card in like a decade. why, if not this? if peter thiel is not your enemy, then you are either ignorant, or your are my enemy. if elon musk is not your enemy by march of 2025, then you either just woke up from a very long coma, or you are my enemy.

something useless

then why are we putting so many fucking resources towards it? you don’t see me fighting against minecraft or fucking roblox. im not ready to riot about adobe’s subscription model. I have a closet full of pretty clothes that are wildly impractical in my current climate.

wasted of resources and spirit

feels like it sometimes, when people shill for this crap day and night, but none of them ever seem to know what the shit you’re talking about.

the true enemy, they have been oppressing you since before electricity

who is ‘they’? because we both agree that people have been largely oppressed since before electricity, but i get the feeling that when you say that, you mean ‘the jews’ and not ‘the parasitic nobility who used them as a middleman to get around a technicality to do something their religion explicitly forbade while giving them a sacrificial firewall they could slaughter every few decades in a good pogrom whenever the peasants got too upset about being exploited, plus their modern counterparts’.

A lot of systems we have already made are super fucked up. this is true. a lot of them were designed to fuck shit up, and be generally evil. we do that sometimes.

these systems only serve to magnify them. see, there’s been a massive marketing push is to call these things “artificial intelligence”. they’re not. they tell you it’s all to complex to explain, but type something on your phone. no, really, do it. like a sentence or two. anything.

you just used the small easily comprehensible version of a large (thing) model. the problem is, as you try to scale complexity on these, both accuracy and compute resources grow exponentially, because it’s literally the same kind of algorithm as your software keyboard uses to autocorrect, but with a bunch of recursion in it and much larger samples to reference every time someone hits a key.

there are some philosophical implications to this!

see, there is no neutral. there is no such thing as a view from nowhere. which means these systems are not. they need to be trained on something. you don’t just enter axioms. that would be actual AI. this, again, isn’t that. these are tools for making statistical correlations.

there’s no way to do this that is ‘neutral’ or ‘objective’. so what data do you think these tools get fed? Lets say you’re a bank, let’s say you’re wells fargo, and you want to make a large home-loan-assessment model. so you feed it all the data from your institution going back to the day your company was founded. back in stagecoach and horse times.

so you have names of applicants, and house statistics, and geographic location, and all sorts of variables to correlate and weigh in deciding who gets a home loan.

which is great if your last name is, for example: hapsburg. less good if your last name is, for example: freeman. and you can try to find ways to compensate, if you want to. keeping in mind that the people who made this system may actively want to stop you. but it’s possible. but these systems are very very good at finding secret little correlations. they’re fucking amazing at it. it’s kind of their shit. this is the thing they’re actually good at. so you’ll find weird new incomprehensibly cryptic markers for how to be a racist piece of shit, all of which will stay within the black box and be used to entrench historical financial bigotry.

death is the great equalizer, but this system can be backed up indefinitely. it will not die unless somebody kills it. which could be really hard. people can learn to be less shit, at least in theory-we can have experiences off the job that wake us up to ways we used to suck. this system can’t though. people can be audited, but aside from rebuilding the whole damn thing, you can’t really do maintenance on these things. the webs of connections are too complicated, and maybe on purpose, we can’t know what changing an already trained large (whatever) model will do.

so these systems are literally incapable of being better than us. they are designed to be worst. they are designed to justify our worst impulses. they are designed to excuse the most vile shit we always wanted to do. they are forged from the jungian shadow of our society, forged from the sins, and only the sins, of our ancestors, forged with the intent of severing our connection to material reality, and forcing all people to surrender. to lay down arms once raised in support of the great titan truth that has always stood between regressive agendas and their thousand year reich, so they can finally kill it, and replace it with blind tribalistic loyalty to their fuhrer.

so please stop shilling for this neon-genesis-evangellion-ass-fuckery.

you’re not gonna get one.

a reflection of who is in charge of it

not even that. it’s an inherently more regressive version of whatever data that person feeds it.

the two arguments for deploying this shit outside of very narrow laboratory uses, where everyone was already using other statistical models.

A. this is one last grasp at fukuyama’s ‘end of history’, one last desperate scream of the liberal order that they want to be regressive shit heads and build the abdication machine as their grand industrial-philosophical project, so they can do whatever horrible shit they want, and claim that they’re still compassionate and only doing it because computer said so.

B. this is a project by literal monarchists. people who wish to kill democracy. to murder truth and collaboration; replace it with blind tribalistic loyalty to a fuhrer/king. the rhetoric coming from a lot of the funders of these things supports this.

this technology is existentially evil, and will be the end of our society either way. it must be stopped. the people who work on it must be stopped. the people who fund it must be hanged.