• SendMePhotos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9 months

      Just downloaded it and skimmed by frames… Seems to be a list of reasons to degoogle. Mentions privacy, security, and how Google is extending fingers into everyone’s privacy by browser, password manager, wallet, phone, etc.

      • november@lemmy.vgEnglish
        9 months

        Guy’s an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.

        • candyman337@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9 months

          Really didn’t like him when he was younger, he was a naive swedish kid that didn’t realize that the dumb shit he said online had ramifications because his audience was so big. He helped platform Ben Shapiro to a younger generation when he had him on his channel for a video, he had that scandal where he said the n word, and then of course the clip where he says the glass ceiling doesn’t exist. It’s clear to me he didn’t realize the cultural and political ramifications of that stuff in America because he was never really exposed to it growing up in Sweden, and he was a cocky 20 something that thought he knew everything.

          I hope these days he’s realizing how idiotic some of that shit was and is actually trying to use his platform to make his viewers aware of valid issues rather than spouting off about topics he knows nothing about to his viewers who take his word as truth.

          • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
            9 months

            He also paid some Africans to hold an anti-semitic sign. To prove people will do things for money I think?

            • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.worldEnglish
              9 months

              The entire thesis of that video was “fiver and things like that lead to exploitation of the global poor”, the sign thing was just a catchy clickbait thing.

          • Cossty@lemmy.worldEnglish
            9 months

            If pewdiepie is one of the most deplorable people in the world you know of. You must live in some kind of alternative universe and in paradise.

          • TheFogan@programming.devEnglish
            9 months

            I mean I don’t really consider him a deplorable person… He was a dumb edgy teen 15 years ago that happened to strike a cord with the overwhelming amount of dumb edgy teens on youtube, and strike it rich. I haven’t paid a ton of attention to him, but from what I saw of his linux and gadget crafting videos, it sounds like he’s grown up a fair amount from his days of scream streaming.

              • TheFogan@programming.devEnglish
                9 months

                Valid… but also have to point out he hit big as a celebrity. When you are literally raking in millions of dollars. He was about 21 when he started his channel. and bottom line is, he got views, he got likes, and it turned into real cash. Most of our jobs etc… encourage us to grow up. His job, rewarded him for catering to his base… which of were younger than him.

              • seralth@lemmy.worldEnglish
                9 months

                Everyone is a edgy teenager well into their 20s.

                As the joke goes, if your 18 your a child, if your 23 your a teenager, if your 29 your 30, if your 34 your late 20s, if your 35 your 35.

                Most people in most western worlds don’t even get to start being an adult till they are well into their mid 20s, which means they only START growing up at like 24-25.

                It takes years to actually mature. Anyone who understand this has never worked a job that has frequent fresh to the workforce people cycling though frequently.

            • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
              9 months

              he pretty much “retired” from youtube because of some drama that occurred, very typical of these types youtubers. and suddenly trying to come back as one. at one point he was shilling for youtubes intense aggressive advertisements(but this wasnt what caused his departure), and then his allegedly support of nazis.

        • NotSteve_@lemmy.caEnglish
          9 months

          I’ve never watched him (I hated him when he would just scream at video games) but he seems to be a lot more mature these days. He even posted a video on why you should switch to Linux recently

          • somewa@suppo.fiEnglish
            9 months

            I was surprised that the video was actually quite good.

        • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9 months

          Calling this guy an ass shows that you have no idea who he is. You’re probably the type of person who thinks they’re well informed but exclusively get their info from echo chambers like Lemmy.

        • kemsat@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9 months

          I disagree. Things seem to get worse when the herds move to them. It’s as if things are good precisely because they aren’t there.

          • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            9 months

            I think you’re seeing the wrong causation when it comes to enshittification. FOSS licenses prevent that sort of thing from happening. Linux is already, by far and away, the most popular server OS so consumers moving to it isn’t going to make it worse.

            I dunno, maybe be less of a hipster bestie?

          • dieTasse@feddit.orgEnglish
            9 months

            bro, open your mind for a minute. Privacy is for everyone. And we need masses wanting privacy otherwise nothing changes.

            • kemsat@lemmy.worldEnglish
              9 months

              I definitely agree with you, but I remember how Digg & then Reddit both went to shit once the masses started to use them. Same with Facebook.

              I feel like if we all spread out between multiple platforms, none will become big enough for the enshitification to hit them.

    • teawrecks@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      9 months

      He switched to linux a while back. Now he’s trying to switch as much of the rest of his digital life to FOSS/non-profit stuff. He advocates for duckduckgo, firefox, paid email, graphene os, selfhosted vaultwarden, nextcloud, anything but google maps, kodi, etc.

        • teawrecks@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          9 months

          I mean…not that curious. It’s his entire livelihood at the moment.

          • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            9 months

            So it’s “You get off Google but not me! And keep subsidizing me!”?

            It’s about 15% more understandable, but still, the same crap I expect by default from that kind of person.

      • girthero@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9 months

        anything but google maps, kodi, etc.

        You had me unti kodi was lumped in with google maps?

        • Zeoic@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9 months

          “anything but google maps” is its own list item, not starting a new list. That list just doesn’t have a googlemaps alternative in mind so they used that.

        • Drekaridill@feddit.isEnglish
          9 months

          I don’t think they’re including Kodi with Google maps, I think they’re just continuing with the list.

    • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9 months

      There’s no redemption arc because he literally never did anything wrong. His content was always family friendly

      • Kernal64@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        9 months

        I really don’t get how so many people here are so happy that a Nazi is using Linux and doesn’t like Google anymore. That’s not the kind of clown I’d want representing or being a spokesperson for my interests and it’s really making me second guess the people here.

          • Kernal64@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            9 months

            Might wanna take your own advice. For example, instead of making a drive by shit post, you could have done what another commenter did and actually explain why people are on board with this guy. That person’s comment had me reconsider my position. Your comment just makes you look like an ass.

      • nasi_goreng@lemmy.zipEnglish
        9 months

        He got backlash from his own fans from all edgy and toxic jokes. I remember some of his Indian fans are angry for his PewDiePie vs T-series stuff (T-series: Indian music company).

        I think around 2019, he apologized and recognized all the edginess he did, and promised to do better.

        For the last five years, all of his content are basically wholesome family stuff or creative activities. Even his recent art journey video are widely shared among young art communities that’s not even his fans.

      • nfreak@lemmy.mlEnglish
        9 months

        Yeah this is why it’s so offputting seeing so much praise for him here. I don’t believe he’s ever outright apologized and owned up to what he’s said and done in the past (I could be wrong though?). Last I checked the dude was literally a neo nazi.

    • enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      9 months

      started with minecraft & redstone, now linux & degoogling, can we extrapolate that in some years pewd’s gonna start hrt lol

  • Demdaru@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9 months

    Throwing it out there - I am tired of left always acting as if something done decade ago was still fresh. Pewds changed, he flipped his whole video formula, and even back then evil things he did were at least questionable. Let it go folks. You are doing nothing else than making yourself look like bitter old people.

    • Gorilladrums@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9 months

      He literally never did anything evil or bad. This is a myth that was entirely created by the far left, who falsely call everything fascist, despite never watching his content.

    • JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      9 months

      There is the expected amount of negativity in the comments, but also more positivity than I expected.

      I watched the video. I am not really a fan of the style, I don’t agree with all of the content. But damn, a big influencer is using his reach to talk about retaking privacy and control in your online life. It can be such a difficult subject to pitch without sounding crazy. I think the video existing is great and pushes general awareness in the right direction.

    • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9 months

      Other than hearing his name, I’ve never seen any of his content, nor do I know any of his lore. If in fact, he once was and has now changed his core convictions, then great. I have no issue with anyone who changes their minds in light of new evidence, or after taking inventory of one’s life, and deciding a new route. Both are commendable. Lord knows we’ve all done some shit in the past that was definitely cringe…I know I have. But we grow, and we learn, and in the process we become better human beings.

      • Demdaru@lemmy.world
        9 months

        He never was. When teenagers used to scream n-word for shit and giggles, he was monetarily incentivised to do stupid stunts. No belief behind, other than to have a laugh and jump in views. When he crossed the line and was critised for it, he backed off, apologised and learned from his mistakes.

        But people love draging it out each and every single time he does anything, be it good or bad.

        • Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zipEnglish
          9 months

          This is the far left people talk about when they say cancel culture or some shit. Some people are so miserable, they want everyone around them miserable too. Qq

        • Microw@piefed.zipEnglish
          9 months

          Hm, I’m not sure about that. There was a point in time where he was - even outside his videos - engaging with Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk. Echoing their philosophies and world views. The alt-right was using him and his platform to lure teenagers in. It’s possible that Felix did not even realize what was happening there. Or he was brainwashed himself for some time.

          The important thing is that from 2019 onwards he clearly distanced himself from any of that.

      • Demdaru@lemmy.world
        9 months

        In short, a bunch of years ago he did some stunts for publicity that put him in a bad light. And don’t get me wrong, he deserved criticism back then. But it quickly became apparent that it wasn’t his view, but just that - a publicity stunt, something to drive algorithms etc, and he also apologised for it and what’s more important, didn’t make similiar shit afterwards.

        So no, not a nazi. In the past you could call him edgy or something, alas even that doesn’t really fit as he didn’t do this all the time. But people saw he is popular and saw what he did and decided that no matter that these were one-offs, he must be a nazi, secretely harbor a shrinet o Hitler and all that.

      • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9 months

        Do you want to continue posturing and fishing for confirmation from other edgy teenage minds, or do you want the answer?

        • saimen@feddit.orgEnglish
          9 months

          ? I want the answer. I am not sure if you are saying he is a nazi or he is not.

          • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
            9 months

            I seriously doubt that anyone who asks that question doesn’t already have a foregone conclusion, but fine, I’ll indulge you.

            Probably not. If he was, and had been hiding it his entire life, even in the era when he was the youtube star and had zero restraint, why would he slip up those few times, and especially such highly public ways?

            He did and said some shit in his early 20s, and he deserved the criticism at the time, but those incidents weren’t repeated and weren’t part of a pattern. He wasn’t the paragon of virtue and maturity, but I’m willing to bet my left nut that neither are the people who are lining up to crucify him, and the only difference is that he had an audience. The people who aren’t willing to let go of their prejudices after a decade are equally as immature.

            • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
              9 months

              It’s kind of sad that you’re so terminally online that you think that everyone else must know who the hell this guy is. All I know about him is that he’s some YouTuber I have never watched any of his content nore have I really heard anything about any controversy.

            • JigglySackles@lemmy.worldEnglish
              9 months

              Not the person you’re replying to, but honestly I don’t pay attention to pop culture shit, so I’d ask honestly too, and thanks for providing the explanation, I assumed he had moved on since I heard little of his antics anymore but it’s good to see info. Don’t assume people know things like that. Just assume they don’t and get to be one of todays lucky 10,000. 🙂

              In case you aren’t familiar with the lucky 10k, see here.

              https://xkcd.com/1053/

              • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
                9 months

                The discourse goes to the same fucking place every time Felix is mentioned. People don’t deserve the benefit of doubt.

  • dieTasse@feddit.orgEnglish
    9 months

    That boy doing so much work for privacy and linux communities. I love it!

    • lemonuri@lemmy.mlEnglish
      9 months

      Imagine if some big influencers like him switched to peertube, that would be quiet a thing indeed.

    • brachiosaurus@mander.xyzEnglish
      9 months

      Can we stop with the narrative that corporations and celebrities are doing good? This guy is 110 Million people away from doing something for privacy and linux, once he makes 110 million and one person switch to linux or using a youtube alternative he will have done some work in the positive.

      • dieTasse@feddit.orgEnglish
        9 months

        I mean… glass half full or half empty… You can appreciate how enthusiastic he was about it and how many people saw the video, or you can just complain… Btw. if he should do more, it will be the positive feedback he gets about it, not the negative one which is just demotivating…

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
    9 months

    I was actually kinda wondering the other day why super large content creators with good cash flow from what they already do, don’t ditch Google and Patreon or anything else that takes a cut to be nothing more than a middleman to accessing the content? They don’t need to host on the same level as YouTube; they could probably make more money hosting their videos on their own website, where they can control what is free or paid for, and can work directly with advertisers themselves.

    • dmtalon@infosec.pubEnglish
      9 months

      And how do they get big? How do they get discovered? SEO ?

      They’re getting huge because of the platform.

      I’m not saying google is not evil but it literally gives them their audience.

      I watch YT more than anything else by a mile, and if my top subscription moved to their website, and I had to jump through hoops to watch them on my TV device, by installing a browser or something I probably would stop watching them or watch them way less. Another TV friendly app sure that wouldn’t be a problem, but I don’t see many doing that.

      • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
        9 months

        I’m talking about those who have already gotten big, like PewDiePie or Good Mythical Morning (the latter of which started on their own website before youtube even existed, btw). Not the dude who just started a channel last week and has nothing to do shit with.

        • non_burglar@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9 months

          The lift of running your own platform is big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to creating your own video hosting platform.

          • rebelrbl@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            9 months

            It’s not that challenging with a partner to help manage infrastructure which even at his scale is not going to cost an obscene amount of money.

            Edit: there’s a very massive difference between a single content creator hosting their content and a site hosting everyone’s content like YouTube as well in terms of cost, infrastructure, security and management.

        • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
          9 months

          If they somehow even got 10% of their audience to go to another platform that would be a miracle

    • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
      9 months

      Well, there is Nebula, which is kinda like that. But most of them also put their videos on YouTube, using Nebula as the premium ad-free option with a little bonus content.

    • DolphinMath@slrpnk.netEnglish
      9 months

      Streaming video is expensive. LTT did it with Floatplane, even going so far as to develop their own backend. Watcher and some other YouTubers did it with Vimeo as their backend, but Vimeo still takes a large cut.

      At the end of the day, people are doing this, but YouTube still offers a compelling value compared to other platforms. It’s hard to beat their scale, sophistication, and the discoverability of their platform.

  • leadore@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9 months

    I think it’s ironic that the alternatives to Android (graphene, calyx) only fully work on Google phones.

    • whoisearth@lemmy.caEnglish
      9 months

      Same reason it continually sucks to get a working Linux build on an apple laptop or desktop.

      As bad as Google is, they’re lightyears ahead of Apple in terms of protecting their products in a walled garden.

  • Owl@mander.xyzEnglish
    9 months

    I just subscribbed to him

    For the first time

    Wasn’t interested in his old content but these new videos are fire and he has a very nice personality and overall amazing video quality. I inderstand why he was nmuber 1 for so many years

  • maxwells_daemon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9 months

    Download the video before YouTube takes it down. I want to see that site flooded with reuploads if they do.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      9 months

      I don’t care about his content, but I downloaded for historical preservation. If you’re willing to watch can you explain the beef?

    • SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
      9 months

      If it stays up, it’s certainly going to be interesting seeing the difference in view counts between it and his other videos.

    • atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      9 months

      It will stay up. Do you know how many YouTube videos there are badmouthing Google? They don’t care so long as you’re watching them.

      • maxwells_daemon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9 months

        All I know is they took down the ones by LTT and Jeff Geerling, I can only assume it was due to the larger audience those two attracted. Now imagine PewDiePie…

  • JigglySackles@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9 months

    Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.

    • TheLowestStone@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9 months

      It was incredibly easy to do and a refurbished pixel 8 is way cheaper than a new phone.

      • JigglySackles@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9 months

        The cost of buying a pixel is the only thing stopping me. I don’t have enough to replace my aging phone with much of anything, let alone a pixel.

        • zalgotext@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          9 months

          You can save quite a bit by getting a refurbished Pixel - looks like the cheapest “Google certified” option (so it comes with a 1-year warranty) is a 6a for $250, which is nearly half off MSRP. I’ve been using my 6a since launch, so it’s been going for 3 years now and I have no desire to upgrade.

          You can definitely get cheaper smartphones, but $250 for a 6a feels like a pretty big bang for your buck.

          • 10001110101@lemm.eeEnglish
            9 months

            I used Swappa to buy my last phone. Not certified, but much cheaper. The condition of phones is “graded,” and the sellers have an incentive to keep their reputation on the platform high. I had good luck, the one time I used it, at least.

  • wise_pancake@lemmy.caEnglish
    9 months

    Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.

    I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.

    There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.

      • AllYourSmurf@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9 months

        Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.

        Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.

        • Redex@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9 months

          Gotta also recommended porkbun for a registrar, had a great experience with then.

          • Jason2357@lemmy.caEnglish
            9 months

            Porkbun + runbox here. Domain and email together cost less than $30 a year. You can use the domain for free with GitHub pages or cloudflare for a free website too.