Windows 11 often requires new hardware. But that will be extremely pricey or have very little RAM for a while.
I dont believe that a single competent person works at Micro$oft anymore, but maybe maybe this could lead them to make a less shitty OS?
And garbage software like Adobe Creative Cloud too?
They obviously dont care about users, but the pain could become too big.
Tbf software is bloated because higher ups who don’t use computers besides microsoft excel tell programmers to not optimize.
The only way to reduce software bloat is to uninstall bloated software and replace it with non-bloated software.
Nah, you’ll get 8GB and swap on nvme. Or, you’ll get to rent a terminal server slot for just $30 a month.
If you’ve ever watched cinema sins (or related videos), hahaha hahahaha…haha (no offense meant but it did make me do that laugh in my head is all)
Mean I wish it would but programmers aren’t going to be more memory efficient due to hardware prices unfortunately.
The laugh was in good nature, not laughing at you but the concept of a company being efficient for hardware costs, mean technically I guess games were otherwise we’d wait a half hour for a render but for the most part as long as it works without that half hour render it’s probably fine with settings adjustments.
They’ll just make things with current specs in mind for longer…well once they realize people can’t afford better hardware.
Naaaah, you are just going to have to run it in the cloud optimised by AI for the low low price of both your kidneys so Bezos, Mark and Elon can continue partying.
It still costs more to rewrite all your existing code sooo no.
Linux FTW
One of those little truisms folks forget is that optimising software takes a LOT longer than making something that just works.
🤣 Nah, they’ll enforce mandatory cloud computing.
You’ll just have a “terminal”
You do know you would need more RAM in that case right ?
It’s crazy that people don’t see this is where computers are heading.
The day tech bros realized they could squeeze recurring monthly subscriptions out of you for basically increasingly banal shit the writing was on the wall. The end game is that you have a chromebook with 800 subscriptions to streaming services for your os, music, movies, tv, games, image editing software, music DAWs, plugins for both the aforementioned softwares, subscriptions for hardware associated with the software (eg drawing tablets or midi keyboards), etc but covering every niche you can possibly think of and not just graphic art and music.
And when you bitch about it tech bros and weird alphas and young zoomers who were raised on this ecosystem and indoctrinated by it will go “well you see it’s fair because updates cost money to develop” as if the old system of expecting bug fixes and security patches to be free but not necessarily feature updates was unfair. Like if I buy a car and it’s fucked up I expect it to be fixed for free but I don’t expect them to feature match the next model year.
Tech workers are disproportionately high paid and so whiney when they have to provide even a modicum of support because then they have to potentially cut into that disproportionate high pay. Like “oh no i make 80-150,000+ a year but if i support this I’ll have to work more without generating sales and will maybe only make 60-130,000+. The horror!” fuck those libertarian shitstains that are literally overthrowing an entire government (and possibly more) with technofacism so that they can justify their “I know python, I should be able to earn as much as I want, fuck ethics, I never emotionally matured past 16” bullshit
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Wouldn’t that be nice! Yeah I think it’ll totally work.
Hey, I think I see someone right now, they’re switching from writing in Python to writing in assembly! “Hey buddy, don’t forget to clear that register! And don’t forget you’ll need to write this all over from scratch to get it to work on any other platform!”
I’m currently running Fedora Linux with Firefox and YouTube opened up. The whole system uses ~4GB of memory. That’s totally fine and I couldn’t care less about what Microsoft is doing with their OS.
With that said, I don’t think we’ll see a lot of optimizations in commercial software. Maybe a few here and there, but a lot of developers nowadays don’t even know how to optimize their code. Especially people working in web development or adjacent frameworks. Let’s just throw hundreds of npm packages into one project and bundle them up with webpack, here’s your 12MB JavaScript - take it or leave it. Projects like this aren’t the exception, they are the norm.
Even if the devices that can run that code without running out of memory get more expensive, companies will just pay for those and write them off on the taxes. And if not, more apps will just get pushed into the cloud.
Not when AI is writing the code.
Maybe it’ll write native apps instead of garbage web/electron/chrome apps
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There’s plenty of “unbloated” software available. It’s just not on Windows.
Which unbloated browser do you use?
(This isn’t a dig or a gotcha, I’m serious, I’m looking to switch browsers)
Firefox currently, though with recent AI related announcements, I’m shopping for replacements. Maybe Iceweasel or Waterfox, have to investigate.
I keep Opera around as a back up option as well though not sure if it’s suitable as a daily driver.
Shouldnt Firefox or a Fork oft Firefox Mike Waterfox or ZenBrowser be fine?
Michael Waterfox is pretty chill yeah
No, everything will just become subscription based.
And powered by the cloud
Why is this painful truth not the top comment? Maybe people are still hopeful after all the time?
Not likely. I expect the AI bubble will burst before those software optimization gears even start to turn.
Even returning to JVM languages would be huge over the current js based electron slop. Things are so bad “optimized software” doesn’t need to mean C++ or Rust.
Not just that all of their ai slop code will be more unoptimized
Yeah, the systems in place right now took 40 years to build
Yes, but with AI, you can build it in 4 hours, and with all those extra RAMs, it could drop to 2
with Rust getting popular the architecture is there to make huge savings without having to be a rocket scientist
the rocket scientists are also getting involved and regularly outperforming even optimised C code
Big AI is a bubble but AI in general is not.
If anything, the DRAM shortages will apply pressure on researchers to come up with more efficient AI models rather than more efficient (normal) software overall.
I suspect that as more software gets AI-assisted development we’ll actually see less efficient software but eventually, more efficient as adoption of AI coding assist becomes more mature (and probably more formalized/automated).
I say this because of experience: If you ask an LLM to write something for you it often does a terrible job with efficiency. However, if you ask it to analyze an existing code base to make it more efficient, it often does a great job. The dichotomy is due to the nature of AI prompting: It works best if you only give it one thing to do at a time.
In theory, if AI code assist becomes more mature and formalized, the “optimize this” step will likely be built-in, rather than something the developer has to ask for after the fact.
