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BroBot9000@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago

The sole purpose of language models is to lower the market value of human skills.

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The sole purpose of language models is to lower the market value of human skills.

BroBot9000@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago
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  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Nah, thats just a side effect. The primary purpose of AI is being a hype object that companies can use to inflate their stock. I like how this blogpost explained it https://pluralistic.net/2025/06/30/accounting-gaffs/

    The labor market effect will be quite short lived. LLMs as a replacement to human labor will be gone before long simply because they will ruin any company, government or project that relies on them. Its a sort of natural selection.

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      I hope you’re right.

      I have doubt, but also hope.

      • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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        LLMs have a more mystical pull than other previous hypes, but look at what happened with crypto and blockchain. Every fucking government and company was saying that its the future and now nobody gives a shit about those anymore. It might be later than you and i would like, but eventually it will pass.

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    Not entirely true. This works only for unskilled labour, meaning anyone who is not skilled in lying and cheating your way into a management positon. Or poor people.

  • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    that’s the point of every technological development lately

  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    Government operates by accepting our individual political authority, and utilizing that investment of power to provide paid services to customers (“taxpayers”).

    Our investment of political power makes us shareholders. Like any shareholder, we are owed a return on our investment. The government should be paying a dividend to each and every citizen.

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    The sole purpose of all tools ever created is to lower the value of human skills.

    LLM’s are hyped but have some value as a tool.

    • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldOP
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      Only tool I see is you. Ai apologist get blocked.

      • masterspace@lemmy.ca
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        Stop living in a dumbass fucking filter bubble.

        Blocking is for people who are abusive, not people who coherently express a point slightly different then the one you made.

        And they are literally unquestionably and objectively right. Literally every single tool ever created was made to reduce the amount of labour it takes to do a task, which reduces the value of human labour. It’s called automation. Read Karl Marx if you think you’re such a leftist, he’ll explain it you.

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    50 years ago - you won’t believe how many paper pushers we’ll be able to get rid of once this invention called computers takes off!

    Also, man these robotic arms sure help automate our factories, but if you turn your head upside down you will see it as ‘lowering the market value of human skills’.

    • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldOP
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      Bwahahahahaha my aren’t you a “useful idiot”

      Hey tech-bro how much money did you loose on NFTs? 😂

      Ai literally makes people dumber:

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf

      https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/18/is_ai_changing_our_brains/

      They are a massive privacy risk:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=3015s

      https://theconversation.com/ai-tools-collect-and-store-data-about-you-from-all-your-devices-heres-how-to-be-aware-of-what-youre-revealing-251693

      Are being used to push fascist ideologies into every aspect of the internet:

      https://newsocialist.org.uk/transmissions/ai-the-new-aesthetics-of-fascism/

      AND they are a massive environmental disaster:

      https://news.mit.edu/2025/explained-generative-ai-environmental-impact-0117

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/cindygordon/2024/02/25/ai-is-accelerating-the-loss-of-our-scarcest-natural-resource-water/

      At least a damn computer and machines work without hallucinating or faking the product.

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    I think in a non market economy I would still work on language models. It’s cool that a machine can hold a conversation.

    • BroBot9000@lemmy.worldOP
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      Go outside. Touch grass. Talk to humans.

      Talking to a hallucinating machine rots your brain:

      https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/07/ai-therapy-bots-fuel-delusions-and-give-dangerous-advice-stanford-study-finds/

      https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf

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        I do those too! That’s where the ideas for new architectures, datasets, and training tweaks come from! Math is fun, and it’s fascinating that math can talk sometimes.

        Edit: And I see now that we’re editing messages after people reply? Rude, no? Designing a hallucinating machine certainly doesn’t rot your brain.

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          Yeah, I also talk to ChatGPT sometimes, fully knowing that it’s a flawed machine and that it’s for my amusement. It’s incredible that it can do that! Just like with wireless communication, which I thought was impossible growing up. Like, holy shit, we’re living in the future, why not enjoy it a little? I don’t even think a conversation spans more than six messages tops. It’s amusing, but not that amusing if you can see right through it.

          I don’t know what OP is on about but they seem to be on a crusade. They’re citing articles about getting advice from it and having it think for you, totally missing the point of having fun. Like, if you’re against AI, at least give better arguments that address why, instead of throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks.>

          • lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
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            Looking at traffic analytics pretty much all our developer staff use chatgpt for 3+ hours a day. I’m not a big fan of using llm for my own development work. I’m proficient in they languages I write in so I don’t need it as much.

            I feel like using llm can get you a quick fix but for programming a lot of the results are nonsense. It’s really really well formatted but nonsense still the same. Maybe I can’t use it right. Or I’m asking the wrong questions.

            I find it hilarious how when you call it out for being BS it responds with “yes of course, you are right!..” then gives a possibly working or nonsense answer, who knows.

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