Horizon Zero Dawn:
Light of Motiram:
Ooh yeah that’s a bit much.
Games are gonna copy major mechanics. Look at all the BOTW clones that came out after Breath of the Wild was successful. But you have to put a liiiittle effort into mixing up the art style and color palette.
Wow! I didn’t realize Sony invented sweeping vistas and giant creatures.
I think it’s because of the colors used, visual theme, mecha nature of the enemies, and character design of the protagonists - too many direct similarities to argue it’s just inspiration.
They might have been able to get away with it if they didn’t use giant mechanical creatures. That’s pretty distinct.
Eh, it’s unique but I don’t think that should give Sony the right to use the exclusively (looking at you Nintendo and Pokemon)
You could have the exact same game but with fleshy dinosaurs and all of a sudden it’s not a problem? And then a third company can come out with another copy with fleshy dinosaurs and there’s no issue because fleshy dinosaurs aren’t unique.
It’s not that they used animal mechs. It’s that the style of the mechs are very close to that of Horizon. Sony has copyright on the design, not on the idea.
Okay yeah I see Sony’s point. Why are Chinese people like this? Come up with your own ideas, guys.
Whaaaat? A Chinese company making a knock-off of another product? You don’t say.
abduct Chinese paper makers, imprison them, steal the technology
sneak into China, impersonate religious figures, hide silkworms on your person, sell to a Roman emperor
sail into China, pretend to be a botanist. Steal tea and grow it in your starving colonies instead of food
“Why don’t China care about western patents and copyright?”
Good ole “what aboutism”
We used to just call that “pointing out hypocrisy” before Americans found a thought terminating phrase for it
No, pointing out hypocrisy would be going “hey, didn’t you also blatantly rip off a popular product? Isn’t it hypocritical for you to criticize them for something you also have done?” What Aboutism is defined as: “the rhetorical practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation, by asking a different but related question, or by raising a different issue altogether. Whataboutism often serves to reduce the perceived plausibility or seriousness of the original accusation or question by suggesting that the person advancing it is hypocritical or that the responder’s misbehavior is not unique or unprecedented.” https://www.britannica.com/topic/whataboutism
And, as always, it is in the sealion’s power to determine what is the same, and what is “different but related”.
Arf arf arf
Is this some kind of Russian proverb I’m too human to understand?
Also, you are very bad at this, it’s blatantly obvious that you have no response to my points, so you just keep trying to deflect and redirect the conversation. So, why don’t we just call it here as a loss for Chinese Apologists?
It’s not redirecting the conversation to respond to your statement that whataboutism is when the hypocrisy is “unrelated”. Which conveniently lets you decide what is related or unrelated.
Do you not consider Russians human?
Only US is allowed to invade other countries and steal what it wants
You’re citing examples from the 6th, 4th, and 18th centuries and arguably the last one isn’t even about intellectual property
Even ignoring the blatant “what aboutism” if your justification for why it’s ok to steal video game ideas is because some Byzantians were mean to you 1400 years ago just know that nobody is going to take you seriously
If you think that historical context doesnt inform culture, you must be an American, in possession of neither.
So, you’re saying that it is the Chinese culture to steal from others because they were stolen from? That sounds racist as hell.
No, but this might shock you, other countries have different definitions of what theft is. Theft is taking something from someone.
The funny part being that it is literally enshrined in American law that game mechanics can’t be copyrighted, so its not even in the definition of theft in America either.
What are you talking about? Is this a bot?
Pretty sure it’s a Russian bot yeah. It seems to have a lot of issues with westerners and Americans in particular.
“Issues with westerners” is an odd choice given that I’m Irish but ok.
It’s not my job to comfort American fragility. Genocide enablers are fair targets in all situations.
Oh wow that is A LOT more similar than I was thinking.
Loved Horizon, so I clicked on an open world gameplay trailer and it’s just survivalslop, fiddling with some shit-producing hovels to get them upgraded to shit+1-producing hovels and hitting trees until they’re planks.
Sony is that petty.
Sony is suing a game dev because their name is “Naughty Cat” which infringes on Sony studio “Naughty Dog.”
EDIT Horizon vs Z.O.I.D.S. Just saying.
i don’t give a shit? doom had like a thousand clones; guess what, doom is still a household name and most of the clones are long forgotten. some good ones made their own name and following.
unless there’s outright stolen assets or code, or they’re using a deliberately confusing name, i don’t care. if it’s a slavish clone as you say, there’s nothing to worry about.
it would be one thing if horizon was this underdog game made by a couple people and has largely gone under the radar then yeah it would suck. but fuck me no one’s mistaking another game for horizon zero dawn.
DOOM clones weren’t literal clones called HELL where you play as the Hell Man killing demons with the Large Heckin’ Pistol.
Yeah they were called CHEX QUEST and it was awesome.
I might be convinced to care just a small, tiny, minuscule amount if it was an indie game. But a corporation like Sony? They can get fucked hard and often with a chainsaw, for all I care.
They’re mad because they wanted to do that first by releasing Ubisoft style annual instalments.
