Five hours after Charlie Kirk was shot this week, an Atlanta man got a phone call from an Illinois police officer asking about a photo he shared with a couple of close friends on a private Discord chat. The Atlanta man, who asked not to be identified, says the post was merely a confirmation that he had purchased the same T-shirt that the accused killer wore (from an Illinois-based online shop).
Social media companies are generally forbidden by law from divulging users’ private communications to the government without a traditional legal process (e.g., court order). But there’s an exception: in perceived emergencies, social media platforms can proactively and “voluntarily” hand over private messages in response to what’s called an “emergency disclosure request” (EDR).
Discord, I am told, did not respond to any EDR here; but when I asked them directly if they’d provided law enforcement with information to traditional legal process, they declined to respond on-record.
The FBI, or the intelligence community, evidently is monitoring Discord private messaging, even from people who have broken no law.
Full blown Orwellian world. Run for local government and stop this shit.
The largest populated areas are left leaning. If they ae controlled by democratic socialist, we can restrict this shit. Just by pure numbers.
As a Turkish citizen, this gives me a sense of deja-vu. America is going through the same crackdowns on freedoms we experienced 25 years ago.
What happened as a result? Any tips?
One thing that happened was that the Turkish leader Erdogan, visited Trump during his first administration, and after the meeting, Erdogan’s security force attacked people who were legally protesting. A visiting head-of-state’s private security came to America and beat-up legal protesters on American soil - and the Trump administration did nothing.
Typical.
I don’t think they’re doing to well so it’s not comforting
frequent political violence while the leaders scapegoat the entire Kurdish population.
I saw this coming in 1999 when Scott McNealy inadvertantly spilled the beans on what his hateful industry was up to, and I have been extremely cautious about what I’ve been posting ever since. People have called me a paranoid crackpot for decades. I guess I hate to tell you I told you so…
Socialist Democrates whant’s to destroy e2ee in sweden to both parties is anti encryption and pro mass surveillance. They are fighting against eachother of “who can introduce most surveillance and police state laws first”
not a single person gives a shit about charlie kirk; the whole crackdown is because politicians got a glimpse ofhow people will react when they die and they don’t like it.
They don’t give a shit about that either. Trump has been trying to goat people into violence and he final got his wish (possibly by his own people). They are seizing on that. That is why he moved the national guard into memphis TN. He wants marshall law to hold power forever.
Edit: spelling
Edit: spelling
Since we’re making corrections, the word is “goad,” not “goat.” You try to “goad” people into behavior or choices they wouldn’t normally make.
I try not to correct people much anymore if their message is still pretty obvious. I realized that offering too many corrections could cause people to post less, and I didn’t want to be the cause of that. But the fact that you were already willing to edit goaded me into suggesting another correction.
Also it’s martial, not marshal, which is reasonably important as martial means pertaining to war, i.e. the army running things.
Really got your goad there didn’t it?
Thats just a moo opinion… lol
Snowden told us about these type of IC capabilities 12 years ago. We are cooked, y’all. Cooked.
I think you missed his conclusion.
We have tools that they can’t penetrate. Privacy is a right. We’re not cooked.
Lol, okay. As the vast majority of people have no clue and no interest in utilizing those tools. No interest in understanding threat vectors and cryptography. Cooked was a bit glibb, but the general “we”, I do not see your optimism.
“Privacy is a right”… sure, so is healthcare and shelter… I am sure those policies are going global really soon.
As the vast majority of people have no clue and no interest in utilizing those tools.
I can’t agree more. A few family members got really paranoid about their communications being monitored after Trump was elected again, so I offered to show them Signal or Element. Nah, no interest, “too hard”. They still text even with the fucking US government itself warning people it’s a very insecure medium.
I’m hoping that disinterest changes after a few people get locked up based on social media PMs, but don’t have all that much hope.
After the ICE raids started, I had a lot of people reach out to me. I’ve given trainings and lots of people switched to more secure systems.
There is an increased appetite in many oppressed groups for this. Don’t try to force it. Be open and ready to train those who are eager.
You should create a website that explains how to do it.
There are many, but nothing works better than in-person trainings
so an illinois policeman called a guy in atlanta around a convo about a thing that happened in utah??? That policeman should be investigated.
I’m fortunately not American.
Guns should be regulated anyway.
How else can we stop people like Kirk and Trump?
With words, you dopy twat. You can watch Kirk right now, getting his ass handed to him in debate on youtube. Stop acting like murder is the only option you have.
Look who’s calling others a dopey twat.
You don’t seem to understand that we are already using words, and it’s getting us nowhere. These people understand that we want to use words, and they have weaponized our need for peaceful discussion against us.
Peaceful negotiations only work when both sides are operating in good faith. Not only are the MAGAs not operating in good faith, they view that as an enormous weakness to be exploited. So they tease us along, offering opportunities to negotiate, but they are just distractions, to keep their grift and oppression going longer, and deepening.
Hopefully, we will eventually negotiate our way out of this, but it is looking more and more unlikely by the day. Anyone who has read any history knows that sooner or later, it will almost certainly take some level of violence to unseat the MAGA disease that is afflicting the world.
We should start getting used to that idea now, before we need it for real.
So, dopey twat was being kind? Its fucking scary how radicalised you are. Absolute nutjobs. But hey, at least you didnt wish I would die… I guess youve got that going for you…
Words are sufficient only in a system that prioritizes broad wellbeing (as opposed to prioritizing the billionaires), when such a system works well, is healthy, is valued by most, etc.
We don’t have it. We have a “every man for himself” and “got mine, fuck you” system.
I hate to say it, if anyone wants something in our system now, they have to take it by fiat and force. The fascists get it. They use the methods that work, it’s just that their desired end state is intolerable shit for most. If their end state had freedom and human rights for everyone, most would forgive the methods.
Stop saying fascists, youve all used that word to fucking much and it now means fuck all.
People are still going on holidays, people are still buying houses, people are still getting jobs and paying rent and every thing else people have always done. Youre just spreading nonsense to play your part in the dumb as fuck culture wars. YOU and people like you, are why Trump is a thing. Yes, thats right, YOU. You, who plays the dumb games of culture wars, who calls a person who dont like star wars a fucking nazi. You created this nightmare world were extremism is everywhere.
Fucking stop it.
Ofc you are an enlightened centrist-libtard-to be gefreiter @ einsatzgruppen. Go on, blame the left, suck up the narrative, surely history started yesterday and nothing similar to this ever happened. Grow a fucking brain or follow your leader, either way gtfo
Americans… so limited.
Word stopped hitler and stalin so well didnt they.
Some asshole debating students poorly is not fucking Hitler!
You’re right, it’s Goebbels.
Just showing how unhinged you are to be honest.
Hey dipshit, which lead to Kirk stopping spreading his hate?
- debating him so he can get views on YouTube
or - the little ouchie he got?
No, the spreading of hate was the talking heads who told you he said things he never said. All the grifters and influencers and main stream news outlets who cherry picked the things he said, to make him look much worse than he is.
Like when he said that people accept that people die so they can have the 2A. You think thats extremism, yet dont ever bother to repeat the rest of what he said, when talking about the shit that society puts up with to have things. Like cars, we accept that 50k people a year will die because we want to drive cars. Its the same argument, but you take it away and all of sudden hes some nutjob claiming kids dying is a good thing.
Take away the 2A and you are at the mercy of a tyrannical government. The price of that safe guard is that some people will die. Exact same thing with cars, and knives, and whatever else. Everything has a cost. EVERYTHING. That was his point. And youd be dumb to disagree with it.
You can argue that we dont need guns, theres nothing wrong with that. But the logic is there.
You can die with the rest of the fascists.
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- debating him so he can get views on YouTube
