• sours@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    2 hours

    It’s so weird that they don’t take comments on the android developer blog post… Almost like they think it’ll be hugely unpopular.

  • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
    2 hours

    So it’s on the same scale as buying a gun in the states.

    I didn’t realise it was so dangerous.

    • Nalivai@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2 hours

      I don’t think anything other than degoogled Android is mature enough to recommend. And it looks like degoogled androids might extinct soon.

        • Zink@programming.devEnglish
          1 hour

          Same with what we were hearing about the Linux desktop!

          …yet here we are in 2026 and literally all my desktops have since become Linux, lol.

  • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5 hours

    Google is the epitome of living long enough to become the villain.

    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3 hours

      They changed their “don’t be evil” motto years ago. I guess they must have kept two thirds of it.

  • njordomir@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5 hours

    How about a 24 hour waiting period for me to harden my OS before Google slurps up all my data.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6 hours

    In these scenarios, scammers exploit fear – using threats of financial ruin, legal trouble, or harm to a loved one – to create a sense of extreme urgency. They stay on the phone with victims, coaching them to bypass security warnings and disable security settings before the victim has a chance to think or seek help.

    Does this actually happen? Or they just trying to manufacture consent to all this bullshit?

    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3 hours

      Do calls like that happen? Unfortunately, yes.

      Is it a reason to lock down and enshittify every computing platform, every OS, every Internet-connected device until we own nothing, control nothing and can’t install what we please?

      It’s an age old tactic of manipulation to start with something true, exaggerate the threat, and apply it everywhere possible.

    • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3 hours

      That does happen. You can see stuff like that on scam baiting videos all the time.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      5 hours

      Never seen it and I’ve worked in banking which I would have thought it would be most prevalent. Seen lots of traditional scams, but never stuff that involves side loading apps. I think the attack surface is just not big enough to make it worthwhile.

    • moopet@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5 hours

      Well I’m sure we’ve all heard stories about it happening, and my FIL had someone walking him through a “Microsoft has detected a virus on your PC” scenario one time until he fucked up and lost the connection (fortunately)

  • LightYagami@lemmus.orgEnglish
    5 hours

    This is not a solution at all. They want to make sick of users who have to wait a whole day ust to install a fucking app. Fuck them.

  • imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    8 hours

    To those who think it is a fair compromise: It is not.

    Android already had one layer of this shit before. When installid freshly dowloaded apk, android would prompt you to confirm that the source of the apk is trusted. This was not like this before. Before you’d just install apk.

    And I agree to a certain amount. But thing is, it was added for no specific reason. People who install apks form outside source, will keep doing it and they 99% of the time know what they are doing or being told to do so by someone who knows what they are doing.

    Adding another layer to this wont solve the problem, except make users annoyed for 24h wait time. And this is only adding 1 layer now. Who the fuck knows what is going to be 1 year later. 5 years later?

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      5 hours

      No one thinks this is fair. Little old grannys don’t side load apps, so they don’t need protection.

  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6 hours

    So now what’s is my motivation to move back to android from iPhone if they are gonna do the same bullshit as apple, hopefully some manufacturers switch to more open android versions like lineage or something

    • LightYagami@lemmus.orgEnglish
      5 hours

      iOS is not any better than Android… We gotta wait for other operating systems to emerge.

      • SethDove@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4 hours

        Sailfish is an awesome OS. Unfortunately no phones currently support US radio bands. I miss using Sailfish. Ubuntu Touch is a good runner up. Options exist. People are clannish though and don’t explore the options. Blackberry 10 OS also was awesome and yet everyone bailed on them. Now we have garbage for choices. I currently run e/OS/ on a Fairphone.

  • compast@lemmy.zipEnglish
    10 hours

    fuck google. We immediately need linux like alternative to android

    • pool_spray_098@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7 hours

      Is GrapheneOS a good enough alternative?

      I am very interested in switching to that when their phone comes out… But I wish pure Linux were viable.

        • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2 hours

          One of my banking apps (Citi) didn’t even work in stock Android on a Pixel. It thinks I’m rooted lol.

          Everything works well enough in the browser though. Nowadays I just do all that stuff on a desktop PC. Not everything needs to be an app or even done on a phone.

          The desktop versions of bank websites have everything I need, whereas mobile versions can skip out on certain features. Plus, these apps tend to hoard perms for “security” reasons, or so they say.

          If you have a strong password and legit MFA (like TOTP or a physical key), use a trusted device/browser that’s good enough. There shouldn’t be a need to grab my location or nearby devices.

          Bonus points if the bank lets you review login sessions and deauth devices, flags things like impossible travel, etc.

          Credit unions tend to do better. DCU is one example. They excel at security, don’t do any silliness with perms in their app, let you review logins and devices, and have a strong MFA implementation. The big private national players just want to sell you to data brokers to pad their margins while you pay ridiculous interest rates on their crappy products and get nothing in return.

          • eleitl@lemmy.zipEnglish
            51 minutes

            I use the browser with a hardware TAN generator, though my bank’s app works fine on GOS.

      • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6 hours

        Graphene has some quirks, but overall experience is solid. Not perfect, but it does the job.

        • Jo4ted@lemmy.zipEnglish
          6 hours

          Iirc, ValvE was working on one for the Steam Frame so all the Android VR games will run natively on SteamOS.

          Edit: its called Lepton. Here’s an article i found about it.

            • forrgott@lemmy.zipEnglish
              5 hours

              I’m not sure that would be necessary, actually. Android is derived from Linux, surely they can do a translation layer for the majority of API calls? I mean there’s no need for emulating anything, nor would it necessarily require layering an entire android install on top of Linux…? But my programming knowledge is limited, and somewhat rusty, so I’m not really sure.

            • Jo4ted@lemmy.zipEnglish
              4 hours

              I’m not too familiar with the project, but I thought I heard talk about it being a compat. layer instead of a VM. Idk though, I might be entirely wrong lol.

  • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
    11 hours

    This would make sense if google play store wasnt full of malware. Scammers dont need you to sideload malicious apps they just get you to download it from the play store.

  • BlackLaZoR@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6 hours

    I already migrated to Graphene. Knowing my luck if I wouldn’t then Google would go through with this shit.

  • osanna@lemmy.vgEnglish
    11 hours

    Remember when you used to own shit? Wow. This is beyond fucked. Right now, it’s “one day”. But this is only because they got a shit load of backlash for disallowing ALL installing software without their permission. They WILL enact it. They’ll just wait until people are used to this. Then they will disallow it all.

    • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
      11 hours

      I think it was just a technique for them to pretend they listened to the community: first, announce something extreme; then, back down a bit.

      People will think they won while they’ve just lost.