cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/1132926
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3 hoursRead the entire article, despite not having heard about Vivado previously. I wouldn’t be surprised if a certain company ending in
softslop is somehow involved.The thing that makes sense to me (purely speculative, no real info to back this) is that Microslop isn’t happy about losing money and the user base, so they are pushing their hardware partners to force users back to the platform.
Redis did exactly this back in March 2024, dropping its long-standing BSD license for the more restrictive dual licensing model, and the blowback was severe enough that the community forked it into Valkey almost immediately.
Sounds like this is probably the best approach and outcome for the Vivado community and software. The end of the article recommends either joining in the discussion on AMD’s forums (which only seems to be getting stonewalled) or joining the growing number of people on hacker news.
- grue@lemmy.worldEnglish12 minutes
That’s the second-best approach. The best approach is for it to be copyleft instead of permissively-licensed to begin with.
- 5 hours
Uggghhh. Thankfully, I’ve never even heard of this program, but this sets a poor precedent for their future endeavors
- 4 hours
Vivado is software for designing hardware on an FPGA. AMD bought out Xilinx, one of the big FPGA manufacturers, a few years back. FPGAs are basically programmable digital circuits: you configure a series of internal logic gates to represent the function of a circuit with memory, data busses, registers, gates, etc. In this fashion, an FPGA could be programmed to function like a CPU, a radio, a video encoder, or nearly any other piece of digital hardware. Very useful for hobbyists and prototyping.
The thing with FPGA software is that there are no open source alternatives. FPGAs have so many complicated blobs and signing keys and proprietary IP blocks that your only choice is to use the manufacturer’s offering.
- NotAnonymousAtAll@feddit.orgEnglish6 minutes
Very useful for hobbyists and prototyping.
True, but that is not the only thing they are useful for; e.g. many high end measurement instruments ship with FPGAs so they can get improvements after release for functionality where implementing it in software would be too slow.
- cecilkorik@piefed.caEnglish1 hour
It is insane to me that something as conceptually basic as FPGAs can even be made proprietary at all, much less that being the universal state of them.
- hayvan@piefed.worldEnglish2 hours
Lattice device support some open toolchains, or relatively open compared to the big two. Or something like that, never got to work with them yet.
- 3 hours
Thanks, that’s basically what I gathered from the article but I didn’t do any further research.
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish5 hours
What part is FUD? FTA:
Starting with the 2026.1 release, AMD is switching to a tiered licensing model. The free Basic tier covers entry-level devices but is restricted to Windows only. Linux support does not show up until the “Core” tier, which costs somewhere between $1,200-$1,800 per year.
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When pushed for a real answer, Anatoli pointed unhappy users toward Vivado 2025.2, suggesting they simply stick with it if they did not want to pay. He did mention that 2025.2 loses official support once Vivado 2026.3 ships, but that detail was buried in a thread reply, leaving users with little more than a dead-end recommendation.
They’re removing the free product they offered for Linux and are sticking it behind a $100+/mo license, and the alternative option for not paying is using unsupported software and being left with any security problems unless you pay an ongoing license.
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
You didn’t link a specific comment, so your reply isn’t worth much. The first ‘substantive’ response I ran across was pretty dumb, effectively saying the Linux app was costing AMD money while offering windows for free and Linux behind a paywall. I didn’t care to keep reading.
So, again, what part of it is FUD?
The part in the OP that is influencing perception by disseminating negative and dubious information about AMD when AMDs actions are actually justified.
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish4 hours
when AMDs actions are actually justified.
Yeah, this is the part we’re disagreeing on, because so far I haven’t seen a real justification for why the same app is fine on windows but not Linux and is only accessible on linux through a subscription. What part of Linux specifically costs them money that doesn’t on windows?
Also, just because you don’t like the info doesn’t make it dubious. And ironically, your defense of them is dubious by providing vague responses and unsupported accusations of spreading FUD.
- HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish3 hours
honestly I would stop arguing with this guy. hes responded several times with no detail when you asked him for hit. heck im going to look at his profile and lable him at the least after seeing this.
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish28 minutes
If anyone had any doubts, you’ve effectively admitted you’re wrong. You can’t even respond to basic questions about the “FUD” anyone is spreading, especially your own.
Maybe try to shill in places that don’t know how to ask basic follow up questions, you’ll probably get farther.
- hoppolito@mander.xyzEnglish5 hours
Can you explain?
As far as I can see OP took the original article headline verbatim; the article itself does describe the exact kind of bait-and-switch model as I’ve heard it used: company offers open standard edition, after a while switches it to basic / ‘core’ offering which locks e.g. Linux access behind a (steep) paywall.
- badgermurphy@lemmy.worldEnglish2 hours
The term “bait and switch” has a widely accepted meaning, and this scenario meets the requirements of that definition.
It seems to me that you have some sort of affinity for AMD that causes you to bristle at critiques of the company, but the facts are uncomfortable ones and very plain to see.
Consider that publicly traded companies have no allegiances. Aligning yourself with them makes you a free marketing tool.
- zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish3 hours
Not a single one of those comments gives the clarity that you see to think that it does. There were two comments that seemed to support removing Linux from the free tier because… ? No real reason was given, even by these vague supporters as to why it should be free for Windows and not Linux.
- hoppolito@mander.xyzEnglish4 hours
You’ll have to point me even closer because none of the comments I have seen on that post state what happened is different than what I described above?
I can see a comment stating the switch is justified in their eyes, but it doesn’t negate that it is a bait-and-switch model.
Wish I had time. If you care to dive in, I’ve provided a link to the post. If you don’t believe any of the comments fit, then I guess you don’t agree with the comments, and thats fine.
