• PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.spaceEnglish
    3 hours

    In October 2020 he joined in signing a letter stating: “Given his astonishing success in his first term, we believe that Donald Trump is the candidate most likely to foster the promise and prosperity of America.”

    Alright then.

    • SippyCup@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17 minutes

      The more I learn about his victims, the more I sympathize with Ted Kaczynski. Terrorist, sure. He just happened to have a valid point

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3 hours

    Oh he’s the one who recommended a grad student to Epstien because she was a “v[ery] small goodlooking blonde”. Apparently he also opposes women in the workforce.

    I feel little sympathy for him

  • HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    12 hours

    A conservative Republican misogynist climate-denying creationist Jew was a client of Jeffery Epstein???

    It boggles the mind.

    • Wojwo@feddit.onlineEnglish
      7 hours

      I think, if you swapped the word “Jew” with “Zionist”, your point might be clearer.

      • hypnicjerk@lemmy.worldEnglish
        60 minutes

        epstein was jewish and had tight connections with loads of influential jews. it’s not bad, just fits the pattern.

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          30 minutes

          He was a Zionist and had tight connections with other Zionists including the Israeli government.

          That’s NOT the same as Jewishness itself, no matter how much Zionists and antisemites (and combinations thereof) try to convince you otherwise.

          He was also Jewish, sure, but that doesn’t have a causal link to being an abuser. Being a Zionist does.

      • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
        10 hours

        Indeed

        But

        Israel and the IDF (shittiest band name ever, period) are making it really REALY hard not to do that.b

        I’d say it would be extremely helpful for all Jews world wide if Israel would just stop murdering babies in the biggest genocide since WWII

        • Platypus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          6 hours

          No, they aren’t. It’s extremely easy to separate the actions of the Israeli state from the beliefs and moral worth of the Jewish people. A great way to start is by actually talking to Jews, you will find that many are incredibly disenfranchised by Israel’s actions. Sure, some support the IDF, but so do many American Christians, so you can’t exactly draw conclusions from that.

        • Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          7 hours

          I mean, ISIS and the taliban were/are pretty horrific, but that’s not an excuse to be shitty to Muslims. This really isn’t different enough to matter. They aren’t shit because they’re Jewish, they’re shit and happen to be Jewish.

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          10 hours

          Israel and the IDF (shittiest band name ever, period) are making it really REALY hard not to do tha

          Only if you consider anything they say to be true, which you shouldn’t.

          Pretending that Israel is accurately representative of all Jews is itself an antisemitic trope, no matter how many Zionists in and outside of Israel subscribe to it, and we’d do well to not fall for the “some Jews think it’s true, so it must be” trap of Zionist Hasbara.

          I’d say it would be extremely helpful for all Jews world wide if Israel would just stop murdering babies in the biggest genocide since WWII

          ABSOLUTELY. Until then, though, it behooves us to believe nothing Hasbarists say and remember that there’s a lot of anti- or at least non-zionist Jews who don’t deserve to be lumped in with the genocidal maniacs and their fan club.

      • cabbage@piefed.socialEnglish
        11 hours

        Or, to be more blunt; shut the fuck up with this anti-semitic bullshit.

        If a person is active lobbying for Israel, or working as on behalf of that or any other terror state, that’s legitimate points of criticism. Pointing towards someone being Jewish as some ground of suspicion in its own right is dangerous bullshit of historical proportions. There’s no reason we should tolerate this shit.

        • teolan@lemmy.worldEnglish
          10 hours

          But even if they’re lobbying for Israel the criticism would not be that they’re a Jew but rather what they’re lobbying for (and the same applies to lobbyist for most countries/companies too…)

      • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11 hours

        I’m not the OC, but I definitely have a strong Christian bias when I hear that someone’s a creationist. I would almost certainly assume they were a baptist or Pentecostal if it wasn’t specified. It doesn’t matter, but it removes the potential excuse that it’s just the culture he grew up in.

        Though now I have to look up Jewish creationism to see if I was very wrong.

        Edit: it’s kind of what I suspected- there are Jewish creationists, but it’s not nearly as common, and there are a lot more options for reconciling two seemingly incompatible beliefs within the framework of Judaism.

      • lookingforanALFpolycule@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11 hours

        JE’s partner in crime Maxwell is theorized to have taken over the family business of extorting people for Israeli intelligence from her father.

  • RobotToaster@mander.xyzEnglish
    13 hours

    One of the other victims was Dr Charles Epstein, I’ve wondered for a while if he was some kind of relation.

  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12 hours

    Man this just makes me womder what could have been. Could he have got bombs over to that island? Made everyone open them all at once around a dinner table?

    Rest in Power, Uncle Ted

    • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
      6 hours

      its kinda wierd looking at his manifesto now. Seemed pretty crazy at the time but a lot less so now.

    • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
      11 hours

      Don’t celebrate that asshole just because a stopped clock happened to be right for one moment

    • sister@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      11 hours

      He went crazy. The difference between his academic writing and the manifesto is worlds apart.

      He said some aweful shit, but props to his treatment of the Epstein class